I am in need of a rails on an Irving Kaye bar box and do not want to ship the original rails out. I was told they have to be shipped by a few companies. I would like to have the table recovered with simonis while having the rails made. Any suggestions, or companies? A new table is out of the question.
Irving Kaye Rails?
- Thread starter Overlandy
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There is no pattern for the rail bolt holes that is available to build the rails with blindly. I use to build them all the time for the Irving K coin-ops up in Washington state. You'd be very well off if you were to send the rails to Kerry at Ridgebackrails.com and have him build you a replacement set. If you'd like, you can even have Kerry send you back your old rails along with the new ones. There is no value in the old rails at all, and I understand you may have concerns about maybe not getting a good set of rails back...and being out your old set as well, but Kerry will for sure take good care of you...he's like a brother to me, as I know him so well...and have for about 10 years or so.
Glen
Ridgeback rails
If you want an additional opinion, I can tell you I couldn't agree with Glen more. I sent a set of Global rails to Kerry who reverse engineered them and sent me 4 sets for my tables that were exactly what I wanted, 4.5 inch pockets and all. Most recently he made me a set of 8' rails for a customer who had an AllTech that was 50 years old and had 6 rail screws per rail (unusual for a coin-op). His jigs wouldn't even work for them, but again they came back dead nuts. You can have the originals sent back if you want, but it is a waste of money. You're not likely to want them again.
If you want an additional opinion, I can tell you I couldn't agree with Glen more. I sent a set of Global rails to Kerry who reverse engineered them and sent me 4 sets for my tables that were exactly what I wanted, 4.5 inch pockets and all. Most recently he made me a set of 8' rails for a customer who had an AllTech that was 50 years old and had 6 rail screws per rail (unusual for a coin-op). His jigs wouldn't even work for them, but again they came back dead nuts. You can have the originals sent back if you want, but it is a waste of money. You're not likely to want them again.
I was hesitant on sending the old rails but RKC, your advice is all I need. RackemBilliards thank you as well. I read many of your posts and really appreciate your work Glen. By the way, do either of you guys have an opinion on how I.K. tables play? I personally love mine.
Thanks Much
Andy
Thanks Much
Andy
Irving Kaye
I'd defer to Glen on that-sounds like he has more experience with them. I'd bet you like them better with the Ridgebacks than before, though.
I'd defer to Glen on that-sounds like he has more experience with them. I'd bet you like them better with the Ridgebacks than before, though.
I'll say this about how they play. When I was designing and building my coin operated pool tables, having the experience of working on 23 different kinds of manufactured coin-op's in Washington state, the Irving K tables were in the top 5 of the best ever built, rail design wise. It's nice when you can take the rail cap off the table, as well as being able to remove the cushion blocks as well, that gives you total control over the rails so, I designed that feature into my King Cobra coin-op pool tables as well.
Glen