Is a 20-ounce Predator Revo cue an 18-ounce cue with weights added to it?

Johnny Rosato said:
Is a 20-ounce Predator Revo cue an 18-ounce cue with weights added to it?
Shirley you jest?
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Learn from the responses.

A 20-ounce cue is NOT necessarily an 18-ounce cue with 2 ounces of weights added to it. It might be 19 ounces with a one-ounce weight added to it.

Furthermore, the $80 optional weight cartridge system is likely useless for an 18-ounce cue ordered as a 20-ounce cue if the cue is already --- once the weights are removed, as responses noted---a 19-ounce cue with a one-ounce weight removed.

Even if an 18-ounce cue was ordered, the $80 cartridge-weight system would likely may be useless since that cue arrives already as an 18-ounce cue that has no added weights ---- adding weights would only increase weights beyond 18 ounces.
 
Zerksies said:
Depending on wood type I don't think all cues are going to be the same. I am using a recent cue a four point sneaky pete. I ordered a 19oz cue with the hopes of adding weigh to match my old Richard Black of 19.25oz. After tweaking things around i ended up with a balance i like and ended up being 18.9oz.

I don't know the weight the OP cue is looking for. But all i could possibly reccomend is getting the 18oz and adding weight. They do make knock off weight systems I've bought a few bolts and they do measure what they say on them.
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In my opinion, there’s a vast difference between a cue brand made to be adjustable by the cue owner by swapping different pre-fabricated weight inserts and a cue maker’s manufacture approach to building cues, especially a custom cue maker like Richard Black. Admittedly, cue makers can use weight bolts, unless a customer has specified otherwise.

The difference is the cue maker uses a weight bolt to produce the target weight of the pool cue being made that the customer has specified, example being 18.75 ozs. or 19.5 ozs. Typically, a good cue maker would strive to use a bolt that’s the smallest and lightest. If you have a cue and it has a single 1 oz. weight bolt in the bottom of the cue butt, the balance is definitely affected versus having 1 or 2 small headless bolts in different positions within a cored cue’s butt.

I had one of my cues cored for using 7 grams headless bolts and I had Bob send me several bolts I could use if I
ever decided to. Even with its cored cue butt, Bob built it sans any weight bolt to within 0.05 ozs of what I specified.

My point is cue makers build your cue based on what you want and the elite ones, like Richard Black, build their cues without relying on a hefty piece of metal in the bottom of the cue to fulfill the customer’s order. Cues built to be weight adjustable are designed and constructed to accommodate weight changes easily performed by the cue owner. Two very different concepts and design approaches to cue building, at least the way I look at cue making and pool cues.
 
did you think they make all cues to different weights? 😂. yes every cue they make is the same weight and they add weight bolts to change that.
you know the silliest post of the year is coming up and congratulations you snuck this one right in at the wire. I nominative you 😂
 
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Bavafongoul said:
In my opinion, there’s a vast difference between a cue brand made to be adjustable by the cue owner by swapping different pre-fabricated weight inserts and a cue maker’s manufacture approach to building cues, especially a custom cue maker like Richard Black. Admittedly, cue makers can use weight bolts, unless a customer has specified otherwise.

The difference is the cue maker uses a weight bolt to produce the target weight of the pool cue being made that the customer has specified, example being 18.75 ozs. or 19.5 ozs. Typically, a good cue maker would strive to use a bolt that’s the smallest and lightest. If you have a cue and it has a single 1 oz. weight bolt in the bottom of the cue butt, the balance is definitely affected versus having 1 or 2 small headless bolts in different positions within a cored cue’s butt.

I had one of my cues cored for using 7 grams headless bolts and I had Bob send me several bolts I could use if I
ever decided to. Even with its cored cue butt, Bob built it sans any weight bolt to within 0.05 ozs of what I specified.

My point is cue makers build your cue based on what you want and the elite ones, like Richard Black, build their cues without relying on a hefty piece of metal in the bottom of the cue to fulfill the customer’s order. Cues built to be weight adjustable are designed and constructed to accommodate weight changes easily performed by the cue owner. Two very different concepts and design approaches to cue building, at least the way I look at cue making and pool cues.
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Richard sent me a new weight bolt when i asked him if i could have my cue 1/4oz less. It's been too long but i don't remeber how much if anything really effected the balance. But i used the cue for over 20 years.

Now my predator was kinda close to being perfect for me with the weight and balance. I had to play around a bit. I even had to account for the extension bumper. It was longer and a bit heavier then the stock rubber bumper.

I will say one thing weight and balance go hand in hand. My Black was 19.25oz and my current predator is 18.9oz and both feel good. The balance point isn't in the same spot. I think the predator is a little more forward balance.
 
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