Is it not silly to play 8 Ball....
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vagabond said:on a 9 Foot table and 9 ball on 7 foot table at pro level tournaments? 8 Ball will be more challenging when played on a 7 foot Bar Box table.For those monster pro players 9 ball on Bar Box is a piece of cake.What y`all think?
I think you're in my head.. get out! get OUT!! GET OUT!!! aaarrRGGHHH
errr, I mean..yes I agree.I think 9-ball is almost an unfair game on a bar box...
Not enough balls to cause the clutter on the table that makes 8-ball challenging, and it's just too easy to move the CB for position on that small of a table.
Now 10-ball... that might be decent for a bar box... just that one extra ball would make you play different position most of the game to make sure you are lined-up for the only shot that really matters... the last one
The way I see it on a bar box you can usually make 1 or 2 balls off the break in 9-ball, and 7 balls is just too easy to work around even on a small table.
(And yes, 9-ball on a bar box is still a very skill-intesive game, as if you even miss one shot your opponent will likely finish up for you. I'm not downplaying people's skill in playing 9-ball on a bar box... just stating how I feel.)
Not enough balls to cause the clutter on the table that makes 8-ball challenging, and it's just too easy to move the CB for position on that small of a table.
Now 10-ball... that might be decent for a bar box... just that one extra ball would make you play different position most of the game to make sure you are lined-up for the only shot that really matters... the last one
The way I see it on a bar box you can usually make 1 or 2 balls off the break in 9-ball, and 7 balls is just too easy to work around even on a small table.
(And yes, 9-ball on a bar box is still a very skill-intesive game, as if you even miss one shot your opponent will likely finish up for you. I'm not downplaying people's skill in playing 9-ball on a bar box... just stating how I feel.)
Okay, before I go anywhere, I just want to say I hate it when people use the word "challenging" or "tougher" when it comes to describing a game. Lots of people say 8-ball is easy which is ridiculous. The real way to describe games is by level of exchange. Yes, 8-ball doesn't have a whole lot of exchange and on a 9-foot table, there will be even less. From what I saw with IPT, I think they did it right. Keep the races long and the pockets tight.
Yokel said:I think 9-ball is almost an unfair game on a bar box...
10-ball... that might be decent for a bar box... just that one extra ball would make you play different position most of the game to make sure you are lined-up for the only shot that really matters... the last one
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I never thought of 10 ball on bar box.Ofcourse it does make a difference.Promoters,did you hear this? I think the promoters should start tournaments of 10 ball on a bar box.
Jude Rosenstock said:
When I said the word "challenging"... read it in context...
"Not enough balls to cause the clutter on the table that makes 8-ball challenging, and it's just too easy to move the CB for position on that small of a table."
No one is talking about the game itself. Please read whole sentences when responding to someone in a less-than-friendly way please. I never said it wasn't a challenging game... I said it's the clutter on a small table that makes 8-ball challenging on a bar box.
If you can believe any of the crap in one of the Cory plays any american on barbox threads they are saying Mr. Matlock wants to play ten ball instead of sweating Cory's nineball racks I guess. I just hope they get a match up for the Derby if not before.
Leonard
Leonard
Yokel said:
There is nothing wrong in using a qualifier like `challenging`.The qualifiers ususally reflect how a person feels about a situation/thing/person.Trying to control the feelings of a human being comes close to taking away the first amendment of the US constitution.
Yokel said:
Actually, I think my post was VERY contextual. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Look, my point is describing games as having a lot or little exchange as opposed to easy, challenging or hard. I mean, one could say straight pool is easy because there are people who shoot for hours without missing. Now that would be a ridiculous thing to say. Saying straight pool has little exchange would be more accurate.
Yokel said:
These are your words:
"Not enough balls to cause the clutter on the table that makes 8-ball challenging, and it's just too easy to move the CB for position on that small of a table."
I think I should ask you the same question.
I agree, I HATE playing 9 ball on a bar box. I find it boring and there seems to me much more luck involved in bar box 9ball. But I think that 8 ball on a nine footer with tight pockets is still just as challenging as a bar box because of the added difficulty of pocketing balls. Still there is often tight position play on the 9 footer............huge breaks with good racks at the pro level will make 8 ball simple on the bar box just like on a 9 footer.
Eric.
Eric.
Yokel said:
You used words that suggested games have a level of difficulty. I was merely pointing out that opponents provide diffculty. Games are merely a set of rules. These rules can help or diminish the amount of exchange that goes on between the two players during the game. 8-ball typically has less exchange than 9-ball but that doesn't make it easier. The same can be said for straight pool and most people believe straight pool taps more skills then any other game.
In my initial response to you, I was referring to specific words you used and cited them. When I went on to use the word "easy", it was to emphasize a point and was not quoting you directly.