Is Kielwood Shaft relly low deflection?

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Pubo

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From what I know a kielwood shaft is a shaft that has undergone a process called torrefaction, where the wood is heated to high temperature to remove sugar and water in the wood. I don't know much about the science behind it, but I'm curious as to whether this treatment actually reduces deflection of the shaft to a noticeable degree.

For reference, Billiard corner had a review on Hsunami shafts Billiard Corner Hsunami Cue Review. Thanks in advance!
 
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sbrownn said:
I am a traditional player that likes traditional looks and wood feel, so I think I would like to try a non-radial roasted maple shaft. Dominiak's cues roasts their non-radial cut torrefied maple shafts with two options, dark and medium. Does the roast time / darkness of the roast make the maple stiffer?

With all LD maple and CF shafts I've tried, I've always gone back to my original hard rock maple non-LD factory shafts. Because of this, I don't think I want to try Dominiak's radial cut torrefied maple shafts. Are people in agreement here?

I hope to be placing an order for the following very soon (or should I skip it and just stick with my factory hard rock non-LD maple?):

- https://dominiakcues.com/shop/ols/products/kielwood-finish-cutpro-taper-shaft-grade-aa/v/KFSH AA
- $35.90 for medium roast color (starting stock)
- 12.5mm long pro taper about 12+" in length
- total shaft length 29"
- tapped for 3/8x10, one of my joint pins is almost 1.5"
- 1/4" tall basic black small joint ring
- .850" joint size
- smallish size white ferrule
- G2 soft tip

total $180 - price includes shipping and taxes (great price out the door!)

TIA
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if you dont like like it i dont think you would lose much money when you sold it
i could be wrong
 
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bbb said:
if you dont like like it i dont think you would lose much money when you sold it
i could be wrong
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I agree. Whatever money you lost, figure its like the cost of a rental of an interesting new type of shaft and is the cost of a valuable experience to share with others. Report your results here.
 
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Well, Bill at https://dominiakcues.com/ got back to me about roasting times / darkness for shafts, unfortunately it doesn't really clear things up:

Hey Scott,

We don’t have enough creditable information to say for sure regarding the playing quality of dark vs medium roasted maple. I’ve been in this business over 30 years, we’ve been roasting maple for a year and a half now. If you went to extreme dark there may be measurable differences. There’s been so much misinformation regarding shafts ( radial, carbon fiber, roasted , ) that I stay away from making boastful claims.
Player feedback has been a reliable source for us.
For sure…. the darker you go the closer you get to charcoal… not so good.
For sure….. roasting maple and Purple Heart does change the composition of the wood.
Machines different, sands different , finishes differently, and yes they play better.
By how much? I can’t say for sure
I’m sure there will be a self proclaimed expert that will build a machine that will test and evaluate everything about everything you need to know about this subject but…
I have to point out that there as so many variables in play ( tipsize and hardness, shaft profile, and the amount of energy put into the hit ) that it’s kind of like an election poll.
With enough effort ( maybe BS…) you can get the results you are looking for
Sorry for the lengthy reply

Regards

Bill Dominiak
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I like the purple maple shaft at https://dominiakcues.com/

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Reducing shaft end mass is how you reduce squirt. As long as you can do that the material doesn't matter. I've only hit one and it was made from a Prather blank. Played ok, made kind of a funny sound to me. Didn't notice any defl. diff. If it was there it was tiny. with a smaller diameter and a really light ferrule these probably would be fairly low def. compared to maple.
 
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