Is phenolic really not good for pool cues?

Cletus

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I read that phenolic is no good for pool cues because it absorbs moisture and changes it's shape. Is this true? Any of you have any problems with this? Thanks.
 
Cletus said:
I read that phenolic is no good for pool cues because it absorbs moisture and changes it's shape. Is this true? Any of you have any problems with this? Thanks.
Where did you read that??? Enquiring minds want to know! :D
 
Ted Harris said:
Where did you read that??? Enquiring minds want to know! :D
From a mad alien scientist .
Cletus, if you placed a phenolic in the freezer, caliper it.
See how much it expands. Not much.
 
Phenolics in fact are know for their very low moisture absorption and great strength, what kinda phenolic are you referring to, paper phenolic? Those are strong too and has good moisture characteristics...
 
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((VH)) said:
Phenolics in fact are know for their very low moisture absorption and great strength, what kinda phenolic are you referring to, paper phenolic? Those are strong too and has good moisture characteristics...

Hi [[VH]], I use linen based phenolics on my cues.I do not worry about moister, I am a good cuemaker, I seal all pores, joints, faces, shafts, handles,forearems, butt seleves, and everything on my cues.
Most cuemakers do also.

I also dip my ivory in some goodies to help it out..........

I have built cues with wooden joints, they play well, and have a cleaner, crisper, hit and feel. I never used maple joints, only bocote, cocabola, ebony, and a couple of others.

blud
 
Phenolic Tip

well, i havent heard anything about phenolic tips being bad for the cue.

But i would think any cue maker with a good rep. Would be able to tell you if the Phenolic tip would do any damage to your cue.

But for 20$ the phenolic tip i put on my Viking VM15 that i was using for breakin. And it was probably the best 20$ i have spent on my game.
 
Thank you all for the replies esp. the real experts here. I figured that guy saying phenolic is no good for cues was full of $hit as usual.
 
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blud said:
Hi [[VH]], I use linen based phenolics on my cues.I do not worry about moister, I am a good cuemaker, I seal all pores, joints, faces, shafts, handles,forearems, butt seleves, and everything on my cues.
Most cuemakers do also.

I also dip my ivory in some goodies to help it out..........

I have built cues with wooden joints, they play well, and have a cleaner, crisper, hit and feel. I never used maple joints, only bocote, cocabola, ebony, and a couple of others.

blud

Amen to that Blud! :)

What do you mean when you said you don't use maple on joints? The joint itself or including the wood part where you insert the joint pin?

What about the shaft collar, still wood or black phenolic?
 
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((VH)) said:
Amen to that Blud! :)

What do you mean when you said you don't use maple on joints? The joint itself or including the wood part where you insert the joint pin?

What about the shaft collar, still wood or black phenolic?

What I do is use only "wood" [on the shaft and butt for collars] from time to time, when building a cue without phenolic.

blud
 
blud said:
What I do is use only "wood" [on the shaft and butt for collars] from time to time, when building a cue without phenolic.

blud

Yeah, probably the closest thing to getting a 1 piece cue hit... I also like the feel of wood to wood.

Blud, has any cuemaker tried using a 3/8 wood pin on the joint?
 
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((VH)) said:
Yeah, probably the closest thing to getting a 1 piece cue hit... I also like the feel of wood to wood.

Blud, has any cuemaker tried using a 3/8 wood pin on the joint?
Not sure on that one, but for a 3 cusion many are made with a 1/2" wooden pin. Some cues that come from Canada, are made that way also.
blud
 
blud said:
Not sure on that one, but for a 3 cusion many are made with a 1/2" wooden pin. Some cues that come from Canada, are made that way also.
blud

Yes I'm aware of that. for carom cues. Seems pretty sturdy enough, and 3 cushion players hammer the ball really hard ey! Why don't you try it and let us know.... mmmmm.... that would be interesting along with your ash cue :D

Ey Blud while your at it, give me an insight on one of my threads her "the 58" inch cue length" where'd it come from?
 
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