is picking up the chalk after a miss sharking?

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shooter777

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Was playing a really nice guy today but everytime he would miss, he would grab the chalk and start chalking his cue. Sometimes he would even walk it around to the other side of the table and leave it there. (the opposite side from where I would be shooting from)


I don't know if he was doing it on purpose but it was kind of annoying.
 
if he was leaving it the opposite side then probably sharking.

this has been posted before(chalking out of turn) as sharking before...


Personally I do it usually, because its a habit and chalking after the shot makes sure I am ready to go in case I forget later on.

My view is that the chalks there and my cue needs chalking and it gives me something to do while opponent is shooting.

If you have a problem with it then you need to join another sport, lol.

Just last week at league I had a guy *BLOW UP* at me because we were shooting at adjacent tables and apparently I was in his way? I hadn't even noticed him the entire night yet I am apparently wrecking him game.

I can only say that if your game is so dependent on where the chalk is, if someone is talking or chalking, or if someone at another table is shooting then you need to work on your own game and worry about other less.

Anyway, I understand that in your case you didnt say if it was affecting your game so that might not apply.

If it bugs you, and you are down on a shot when he goes up to put it down on the opposite side, just stand up, look at your tip like you think it needs chalking and go over to the other side to pick up that piece of chalk, chalk your tip and then move it back down to your side.

Then see if he keeps it up... but don't let it get to you.
 
can i ask, whats sharking ?

is it just like getting back at the player becuase you missed the shot ?
 
briskx said:
can i ask, whats sharking ?

is it just like getting back at the player becuase you missed the shot ?
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Sharking can be defined as purposely distracting your opponent while they are at the table
 
I think for a lot of people, myself included, it is just a habit to chalk after a shot, even a miss. As far as putting the chalk on the other side of the table, they are chalking while they are trying to get out of your way and probably have to move to the other side of the table to do so. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the majority of people that do this probably aren't even concious of it and have no bad intentions. With some people though, you never know. I know a guy who, when it was his turn to shoot, would pick up a piece of chalk and when he'd miss, he'd bring it back with him and put it in his pocket. If you went and got another piece of chalk, he would take that too so there would be no chalk left on the rail. After one match, I think he unloaded 6 or 7 cubes. Not too hard to see he was doing it delibrately...
 
I personally have always carried my own chalk, and have had people get pissed when I pick it up as Im walking away from the table. Oh well. But calling it sharking is nonsense. Picking up the only cube of chalk for instance is bad etiquette, not really sharking. Picking up your chalk is neither.
If Im playing on a table with no chalk, Ill get my piece out and an extra for the opponent. My chalk is mine, I hate worn pieces of chalk, and dislike the way most others use chalk, I wear it down in a pattern, not drilling a hole.
People consider too many things sharking. If you are that easily distracted...... you need to work on your concetration instead of your jump shot..... :D
Chuck
 
Ditto

Ditto ... River City.
I bring my own and usually end up leaving it.

special note*** I think that if ALL players return their collection of chalks that are found in their cases, on their dressers, in their cars > to their local establishments....Tweetens corporation could be out of busines for a couple of years!
 
I've played lots of guys that chalk up after a miss. Many of them take the chalk back to their seat, chalk up while they're sitting, and return the chalk when they return to the table. I've never considered it to be annoying/sharking. Actually, I think some guys do it to keep the tempo of the game up so that when they return to the table, they can get into their shot routine right away. If this were a case where there was only one piece of chalk on the table, then I might get annoyed, but when there are two, as there should be, then I don't have a problem with it. For me personally, I use a tip that's a little different than most. Along with it being pretty hard, it also squeakes like a pig when I'm chalking up, so I take extra care to avoid chalking at any time other than when I'm on the table.
I once played a guy that not only had a really good game, but was a really smooth/quick player that moved around the table really quickly and smoothly ala Salvas style. He always kept the chalk in his bridge hand even while shooting. I thought it was pretty cool, and to me, it was his way of advertising that, by not putting the chalk down, that he was pretty confident of the current shot and would soon be chalking up for the next shot. Kinda took me out mentally, but not what I would consider sharking, more or less me being in awe of the confidence he had. Makes me wonder though, are there anything to do with rules with something like this? Does having a foreign object in your bridge hand while playing consitute any kind of rule infraction?
 
A lot depends on where and when he's setting the chalk down. If he's putting the chalk down in your line of vision while you're over a shot then it's sharking. I don't think just chalking your cue after you miss is a shark tactic as long as you're not doing it to deliberately shark your opponent.

I chalk my cue all the time; when I'm about to shoot, right after I shoot, etc. I don't do it with the intention of sharking, it's just a nervous habit. When you miscue a couple of times at crucial moments in a game, you tend to chalk up more frequently. The more serious the game the more I chalk up.
 
I think the correct answer is to try and read your opponent.

Some people can be very touchy when it comes to chalk, and everyone thinks they are right about their views.

Some are going to take issue, some are not.
 
Is it sharking?

The question should be, "Is it successful sharking".

I have come to believe that anytime the opponent does anything except sit quietly in his chair it is sharking. Period. End of story.

As far as chalking as he is leaving the table he is getting in your head. He's got you wondering why he is chalking. Why he is putting the chalk far from you. And then you start anticipating his chalking so that when he skips chalking you are wondering what he is up to now and why he didn't pick up the chalk.

It is all a mind game. All designed to break your concentration. And it sure works since you are still thinking about it and you are miles from where it happened.

Jake
 
What it is, sharking or not, intentional or not, is simply rude. When your turn at the table has ended, you should leave the table and stay the hell out of the way. You don't need to chalk your cue of you aren't shooting. Sit quietly and wait your turn. When you get to the table again you'll have plenty of time to chalk while you map out your plan.
 
chalking and manners

The game would be benefit if players followed the behaviors we see on TV tournament matches. When a player's turn is done they go to the chair quietly.
This type of sportmanship is one reason pro golf has been successful.
 
briskx said:
can i ask, whats sharking ?

is it just like getting back at the player becuase you missed the shot ?
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It is an illegal maneuver that causes distraction to your opponent.many times it is intentionally done by the low lifes,loosers,scum of the earth,evil players.Those acts that are considered as illegal ,sometimes are committed inadvertantly by innocent people.
 
I sometimes chalk after a missed shot, but more from habit than any attempt at sharking, which I do not do.

My routine is to put the chalk on the rail to my left when getting down for a shot and then pick it up immediately after the shot and start chalking . Sometimes I inadvertently do this even if I miss. I then catch myself, put the chalk down, unless it is my own, and return to my seat.
 
I find chalking is like a habbit. I will usually bring my own chalk if the hall im going to has really worn out pieces. If im sitting in a chair then its not really a problem but if im standing and the person is taking forever to take a shot, i sometimes find myself chalking my cue for no apparent reason. Im not trying to shark anyone, but standing for a long period of time like that its almost as if my body thinks im at the table and is chalking up. I chalk quietly though so ive never had complaints except from one guy. BUT this is the same guy that refused a nice almost new cube of chalk from the counter because he thought it was "cursed". He also is the same one thatll grab my cube of chalk from right under my nose while im down stroking and start drilling it.......

But back to the question...
Like what the others said; just test the person a bit. It is usually pretty easy to see when someone is trying to shark you.
 
roddyc said:
I think for a lot of people, myself included, it is just a habit to chalk after a shot, even a miss. As far as putting the chalk on the other side of the table, they are chalking while they are trying to get out of your way and probably have to move to the other side of the table to do so. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the majority of people that do this probably aren't even concious of it and have no bad intentions. With some people though, you never know. I know a guy who, when it was his turn to shoot, would pick up a piece of chalk and when he'd miss, he'd bring it back with him and put it in his pocket. If you went and got another piece of chalk, he would take that too so there would be no chalk left on the rail. After one match, I think he unloaded 6 or 7 cubes. Not too hard to see he was doing it delibrately...
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Haven't read down to the bottom of the thread yet, so if someone already suggested this, my apologies. GET YOUR OWN CHALK AND CHALKER. End of story.

Flex
 
This is a good time to ask...

I am ready to get my own pocket chalker and wonder how many of you have one?

Seem to me a good way to get the chalk and shape I want and an end to the "chalk search"..............
 
mmwtdh said:
This is a good time to ask...

I am ready to get my own pocket chalker and wonder how many of you have one?

Seem to me a good way to get the chalk and shape I want and an end to the "chalk search"..............
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Have one.

Flex
 
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