is this a foul?

[mikeiniowa]

I played in tourney and this came up. I was not involved. playing 9-ball. player A is hooked by the 9 and is kicking at the 6. the line he is kicking at is not obstructed by the 9. player makes a good hit but player b says his cue stick hit the 9. they were about 6 inches apart.
I know the 9 is considered the obstructing ball but it was not impeding the kicking path in any way.
I am still at the tourney and do not have access to the wei table.

is this clear? I think there was a situation like this in BD and the ruling was that ......... I forgot.

mike athens

 

[Barbara]

I played in tourney and this came up. I was not involved. playing 9-ball. player A is hooked by the 9 and is kicking at the 6. the line he is kicking at is not obstructed by the 9. player makes a good hit but player b says his cue stick hit the 9. they were about 6 inches apart.
I know the 9 is considered the obstructing ball but it was not impeding the kicking path in any way.
I am still at the tourney and do not have access to the wei table.

is this clear? I think there was a situation like this in BD and the ruling was that ......... I forgot.

mike athens

If you are playing "cue ball fouls only" then it is not a foul. The sitting player has the option of restoring the disturbed ball back to its original position.

Barbara

 

[sjm]

If the nine was moved in a way that affected the outcome of the shot, it's a foul. For example, if the cue ball had subsequently contacted the nine, it would be a foul. If the nine ball could be interpreted as an obstruction, this is a foul. Moving the ball you are jumping over or masseing around is always a foul.

Still, unless you have omitted some relevant details, this is not a foul.

 

[stevelomako]

This is exactly why the rule should be.........if you hit a ball while shooting it's a foul.....no guessing what the intent was, no guessing if a ball was obstucting, real simple....hit the cue ball and the cue ball ONLY or it's a foul.

Couldn't argue anything that way but the lazy players like all the rules where you can touch balls and nothing happens.

 

[jjinfla]

At some places if the shooter picks up the ball to move it back it is a foul. Or if he picks up (touches) any ball before all balls stop moving it is a foul.

I agree with Steve and pool should be played at the higher level where all fouls count.

 

[DaveK]

This is exactly why the rule should be.........if you hit a ball while shooting it's a foul.....no guessing what the intent was, no guessing if a ball was obstucting, real simple....hit the cue ball and the cue ball ONLY or it's a foul.

Couldn't argue anything that way but the lazy players like all the rules where you can touch balls and nothing happens.

While I do not disagree, trying to enforce 'all ball' fouls gets a bit difficult, especially without a referee (or perhaps two, one cannot see everything). Taken seriously though, playing all-ball fouls should cause players to wear tighter clothes, which might not be a bad thing depending on who's playing

Rules are good. Enforceable rules are even better. All-ball fouls without a referee is just asking for trouble, imo.

Dave