JB Ultímate Rugged case: a testimonial

The Rugged line is a bit outdated now. It also seems everyone has one. They need to revamp the line so those with rugged cases can upgrade.

I’ve seen more stylish cases from predator, action is very good for the money, pro series and whoever mezz gets their cases from.

The JB leather cases are timeless though. Those are amazing cases. If he loosens up the slots a bit where the cues hang loose then it would be perfect. It’s padded anyways so it won’t hurt the cues if it’s moving between pads. I don’t like Irish linen sliding in and out of the tight interior. It’s like taking a dry towel over it. Causes the linen to produce lint. I’ve had cases that wasn’t nearly as tight and periodically I have to take a lighter to the linen to burn off the lint.
 
The Rugged line is a bit outdated now. It also seems everyone has one. They need to revamp the line so those with rugged cases can upgrade.

I’ve seen more stylish cases from predator, action is very good for the money, pro series and whoever mezz gets their cases from.

The JB leather cases are timeless though. Those are amazing cases. If he loosens up the slots a bit where the cues hang loose then it would be perfect. It’s padded anyways so it won’t hurt the cues if it’s moving between pads. I don’t like Irish linen sliding in and out of the tight interior. It’s like taking a dry towel over it. Causes the linen to produce lint. I’ve had cases that wasn’t nearly as tight and periodically I have to take a lighter to the linen to burn off the lint.

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The Rugged line is a bit outdated now. It also seems everyone has one. They need to revamp the line so those with rugged cases can upgrade.

I’ve seen more stylish cases from predator, action is very good for the money, pro series and whoever mezz gets their cases from.

The JB leather cases are timeless though. Those are amazing cases. If he loosens up the slots a bit where the cues hang loose then it would be perfect. It’s padded anyways so it won’t hurt the cues if it’s moving between pads. I don’t like Irish linen sliding in and out of the tight interior. It’s like taking a dry towel over it. Causes the linen to produce lint. I’ve had cases that wasn’t nearly as tight and periodically I have to take a lighter to the linen to burn off the lint.
You aren’t wrong about predator cases . I have a couple butterfly cases from them I’ve used the hell out of and still look great and no issues.
 
You aren’t wrong about predator cases . I have a couple butterfly cases from them I’ve used the hell out of and still look great and no issues.
What’s shocking is how cheap the prices are. I thought anything Predator would command a premium.

JB is an innovator with specialized compartments in the pockets. I like to dump my EDC, everyday carry items in my cue case and I use the jump cue pocket and it’s a mess. Watches, knife and pen gets scratched up.

I remember JB cases having dedicated chalk pocket, cue ball and dividers.

Cuetec has a great case out on the market. Possibly the best and it has a pocket for your phone.
 
What’s shocking is how cheap the prices are. I thought anything Predator would command a premium.

JB is an innovator with specialized compartments in the pockets. I like to dump my EDC, everyday carry items in my cue case and I use the jump cue pocket and it’s a mess. Watches, knife and pen gets scratched up.

I remember JB cases having dedicated chalk pocket, cue ball and dividers.

Cuetec has a great case out on the market. Possibly the best and it has a pocket for your phone.
Yeah I think the average butterfly case is like $160 from predator which is pretty cheap for it being predator

jb took the my justis case that I loved and fixed the things I didn’t . not just the interior but the pockets. Magnet closing and the zippers down the side so you can easily get in it. the zipper for the big pocket isn’t just on the side but it goes around the top again to make it easier to get things Out. a small pocket on the opposite side that’s for a jump handle or in my case me extension . The top closure is magnet again. A shoulder strap that actually has some padding for my skinny shoulder rather then just a thin piece of leather lol. Don’t get me wrong my justis was a classic and I kick myself for selling it but my jb case is not only every bit as well made but also more functional .
 
What’s shocking is how cheap the prices are. I thought anything Predator would command a premium.

JB is an innovator with specialized compartments in the pockets. I like to dump my EDC, everyday carry items in my cue case and I use the jump cue pocket and it’s a mess. Watches, knife and pen gets scratched up.

I remember JB cases having dedicated chalk pocket, cue ball and dividers.

Cuetec has a great case out on the market. Possibly the best and it has a pocket for your phone.

I use the middle pocket on my JB rugged for my cue holder. When I go play I take the cue holder (and towel - which also keeps the holder from rattling) and put my phone in there. Done playing, I pull the phone out and put cue holder back in.

That being said, I like the Predator Urbain case but have no reason to purchase a new case.
 
I have a brand new Urbain case, never used, I would sell. I am satisfied with my JB Rugged case.

Not in the market. I've culling my herd of cues so all my cues fit in my 3x6 JB rugged. Of course, I was looking last night and thought - I sure wouldn't mind a 4x8.
 
So, here’s an update. The zipper on that little top pocket healed up enough to still function. The little hole in the corner of said pouch is, (according to my road tests), too small for a cube of chalk to escape.

TL;DR: It’s a good case.
 
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Not in the market. I've culling my herd of cues so all my cues fit in my 3x6 JB rugged. Of course, I was looking last night and thought - I sure wouldn't mind a 4x8.
Chili if you are not looking for something customized to your taste tune in to JB's next live auction on FB. I just got my first jb case last week. 4x8 blue tweed, won the bid for only 280 i think. great deal.
Dan
 
I’m still waiting for his wife to say something in his commercials.

Not sure what commercial you are referring to but the ones that sometimes play on some live streams were literally done at around 2am after 14 hours at the booth. We were both dead on our feet for those.


That’s what I hated about the justis case is listening to my cue sticks rattle around while I was walking. Not that they were being damaged from it ..just more of an annoyance. My mason case is tight because they are so small so you have to put your cues in it in a certain way. Especially since I use one of the shaft slots for my jump cue butt but I can also turn my case upside down and shake the hell out of it even if I just have 1 cue in it and they don’t move lol

And remember what Jack said about it? "If you don't like the sound of your cues rattling in a Justis case then stop shaking the damn case". Jack, rest in peace my friend, had a quick with and great one liners that could send me into a frenzy for days.

This could be a whole other thread but, I always put my cues in butt first and bumper down, then put the shafts in with tip down. However, I have a JB 3x6 and it's full with 3 butts and 6 shafts. Main player with 1 shaft, secondary player with one shaft (Huebler above) break cue with one shaft, 2 jump shafts (jump butts are in the jump butt pocket (Ironically, that's where my sleeve is at, keeps them from banging against each other!) and one spare Huebler shaft from a different cue just in case) so when I pull a cue out it's tight unless I pull multiple shafts out first. Point being, if the shafts were put in first with tip up then the butts with bumper up, this would considerably reduce the resistance of getting them in or out. Not going to happen because it would be hard to get the cues out, but it's an option.

You can put the cues in bumper down with some of the tips up.


The Rugged line is a bit outdated now. It also seems everyone has one. They need to revamp the line so those with rugged cases can upgrade.

I’ve seen more stylish cases from predator, action is very good for the money, pro series and whoever mezz gets their cases from.

The JB leather cases are timeless though. Those are amazing cases. If he loosens up the slots a bit where the cues hang loose then it would be perfect. It’s padded anyways so it won’t hurt the cues if it’s moving between pads. I don’t like Irish linen sliding in and out of the tight interior. It’s like taking a dry towel over it. Causes the linen to produce lint. I’ve had cases that wasn’t nearly as tight and periodically I have to take a lighter to the linen to burn off the lint.

We are a custom case maker so all you need to do it tell us what you are willing to pay for and we can wrap as much pretty around the protection as your budget allows for.

The Rugged Line started life as the Basic Rugged and was intended to be plain and practical. I have designed some of the coolest cases ever seen and many of those designs are found in other brands these days. None of them offer the same protection that we do and none of them are built as sturdy as ours.

Regarding your claim that our interiors cause Irish linen to pill this is ASOLUTELY UNTRUE. A wrap that is properly pressed as Irish Linen wraps are supposed to be WILL NOT PILL in a JB case. I have tested this extensively. A unpressed Irish linen wrap will pill BECAUSE that is the nature of Irish linen and it will do this regardless of the case it is kept in. It will pill even if not kept in a case due to the friction of handling it. Our interiors are also snug not tight. We can argue over what pressure constitutes "snug" versus "tight" but I have several videos that demonstrate what I mean by snug that I feel adequately show what I claim.

My personal cues have pressed Irish linen and they are all $1000 and higher. If I ever detected that the case was causing any issues to the linen I would IMMEDIATELY change the design. The issue you describe is NOT something that happens in JB Cases as a fault of the case. At least not something that has EVER come up in the past 14 years and with the over 30,000 cases we have built to date.

While this video doesn't address the Irish linen claim you made it does address the several times that you have chosen to call our cases tight in a negative manner.


What’s shocking is how cheap the prices are. I thought anything Predator would command a premium.

JB is an innovator with specialized compartments in the pockets. I like to dump my EDC, everyday carry items in my cue case and I use the jump cue pocket and it’s a mess. Watches, knife and pen gets scratched up.

I remember JB cases having dedicated chalk pocket, cue ball and dividers.

Cuetec has a great case out on the market. Possibly the best and it has a pocket for your phone.

The Cuetec case has a number of "features" that were taken directly from us. The phone pocket is something we created over ten years ago and we have many variations of it. The CT case is very heavy because they don't know how to design the case without creating way to many layers. For a butterfly it is not built properly to support the weight. That's why the CT cases often look like crap after a couple months of use as the internal construction breaks down under the weight.

How do I know? I bought one and inspected it thoroughly because IF they had done anything better than us then I would take that and make ours better. And, for similar money you can a better JB butterfly case WITH a lifetime warranty. I thought I did a video comparison and if I did and find the link I will come back and edit this post to provide it.

Regarding Predator cases being cheap........ I could say a lot here but I will just say that regardless of the price it is my opinion that you get LESS than you pay for with a Predator case. I make a nice chunk of money selling replacement interiors for some of their models. Their entire liner fits inside my fist as you will see at the end of this video. Bonus: this video contains information about the padding and rubber grips.


Anyone else got comments or questions you want me to address?
 
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Edit: I was replying to Hans, but when I posted, his post was gone???

I understand your issue, but for me, I love mine the way it is. Can I pull the butt out if the shaft is there? No, but that’s ok. Everything fits nicely and nothing moves. I pull the shaft out. I pull the butt up about half way and it stays put so I can remove the joint protectors. I put the shaft on, give it a nudge, and it slowly slides back in the case. Repeat do the breaker. Ready to go. I don’t want any rattling.

It is very snug. Maybe if the joint protector was very smooth it would be harder to get a grip. I would still rather that then have the cues moving around, but my JPs let me get a grip pretty easy.

If you would rather it be loose, JB has said many times if you want the interior with less padding, he will make it. Just ask.

Generic JPs
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Custom JPs
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a friend who like JB cases.. has one.. didn’t like that my mason case top only has a magnet to keep the lid on. (i think it’s brilliant ) he felt that it could open and the cues would fall out. To that I popped off The lid turned it upside and shook it. Lol He freaked out until he saw they didn’t budge. they aren’t going anywhere Man
 
a friend who like JB cases.. has one.. didn’t like that my mason case top only has a magnet to keep the lid on. (i think it’s brilliant ) he felt that it could open and the cues would fall out. To that I popped off The lid turned it upside and shook it. Lol He freaked out until he saw they didn’t budge. they aren’t going anywhere Man
I did that recently to show some friends. they thought i was nuts... have to say it is harder with a 4x8 full.. damn heavy turning upside down
 
I did that recently to show some friends. they thought i was nuts... have to say it is harder with a 4x8 full.. damn heavy turning upside down
The mason case is crazy lite. The way the pockets open is great. I’ve said before I wish I wouldn’t have sold my justis simply because jack made a beautiful case but jb‘s looks , quality, and just the little things that make it more useable is the best case I ever had
 
The mason case is crazy lite. The way the pockets open is great. I’ve said before I wish I wouldn’t have sold my justis simply because jack made a beautiful case but jb‘s looks , quality, and just the little things that make it more useable is the best case I ever had
Yeah i've heard the mason are made much lighter. mine is a 4/8 tweed reg case so more weight to it. its fine carrying the way its meant to be. i just meant turning it upside down.
 
Edit: I was replying to Hans, but when I posted, his post was gone???

I understand your issue, but for me, I love mine the way it is. Can I pull the butt out if the shaft is there? No, but that’s ok. Everything fits nicely and nothing moves. I pull the shaft out. I pull the butt up about half way and it stays put so I can remove the joint protectors. I put the shaft on, give it a nudge, and it slowly slides back in the case. Repeat do the breaker. Ready to go. I don’t want any rattling.

It is very snug. Maybe if the joint protector was very smooth it would be harder to get a grip. I would still rather that then have the cues moving around, but my JPs let me get a grip pretty easy.

If you would rather it be loose, JB has said many times if you want the interior with less padding, he will make it. Just ask.

Generic JPs
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Custom JPs
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They are very good cases and I love mine. It is the little nuances after after weeks of using it that I notice.

People at my pool hall that have rugged cases and myself are the last to unpack and get ready for our matches. We are also the last to pack up and move. If you're an owner then you know. The constant shuffling of shafts to make room becomes a routine.

I start to just shove my cues in there and not care anymore.

I will be buying an Action case for my higher end cue but this is good enough for the competition cues.

Wait till I take pictures of what it has done to my Mezz wrap. It's either a Mezz issue or the rubbing from the interior. The wrap is getting quite fuzzy.

It is what it is. Well built and looks good.
 
They are very good cases and I love mine. It is the little nuances after after weeks of using it that I notice.

People at my pool hall that have rugged cases and myself are the last to unpack and get ready for our matches. We are also the last to pack up and move. If you're an owner then you know. The constant shuffling of shafts to make room becomes a routine.

I start to just shove my cues in there and not care anymore.

I will be buying an Action case for my higher end cue but this is good enough for the competition cues.

Wait till I take pictures of what it has done to my Mezz wrap. It's either a Mezz issue or the rubbing from the interior. The wrap is getting quite fuzzy.

It is what it is. Well built and looks good.

It must be an issue with the wrap. Like I stated in an earlier post, I have pulled my cue in and out many times every time I play since I keep the cue in the case rather than in a cue rest. As my pictures showed, I can't see a difference between a new unused cue and one I have played with for years.

Don't get me wrong, I understand what you are saying. I was frustrated when I first got the case too. Then after a short time the interior kind of molded to the shape of the cues and though still snug I have no problem with it now.

P.S. Am I crazy or did I not see a post from you with pictures of your cues in the case? lol

Scott
 
It must be an issue with the wrap. Like I stated in an earlier post, I have pulled my cue in and out many times every time I play since I keep the cue in the case rather than in a cue rest. As my pictures showed, I can't see a difference between a new unused cue and one I have played with for years.

Don't get me wrong, I understand what you are saying. I was frustrated when I first got the case too. Then after a short time the interior kind of molded to the shape of the cues and though still snug I have no problem with it now.

P.S. Am I crazy or did I not see a post from you with pictures of your cues in the case? lol

Scott
I already know what Mezz is going to say. How are you storing it? I store it in a JB case. Well, your case is damaging the cue. LOL
 
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