Joint collar
- Thread starter newo9277
- Start date
You can do that as long as you line it with phenalic, or you could just buy some linen based phenalic from your local Plastic supply if you want it to have swirls.
Michael Webb said:
Are you saying use a phenalic ring and then a blackwood ring on top of that?
On the butt and the shafts? Is this so the shaft won't split? It will be a 5/16-14 joint pin with brass inserts in the shafts. I was trying to match the but cap and the joint pin. I have a blackwood butt cap. Should i worry about that splitting? I was going to have the rubber bumper stick out far enough as to not worry about the butt ever hit the ground. If it is not a good idea to use the blackwood i will use black phenolic in both the butt and the joint.
Thanks,
Owen
If you want black, I personally would go with the phenalic, I would never do a wood joint or butt cap without lining it with phenalic, It adds durability and also protects the wood collars from spliting, from force, and humidity. I would do this for any wood collar, Butt and shaft. Why take a risk if you don't have to.
newo9277 said:
If the wood is well-seasoned and you seal it well, you should'nt have problems. However, wood is not as durable as phenolic, and if care is not taken when handling the cue, there could be damage. Also, Phenolic can greatly reduce the chance of the shaft splitting at the joint end, especially with large 3/8" holes for radial or other similar pins.
I am using DB phenolic in some cues I am doing. I have Gab. ebony, but the phenolic looks just as good to me when finished. I do want to try some woods with more figure and color in them, but would probably either sleeve them with phenolic, or look into vac impregnating the wood somehow with a tough resin of some sort. Weight & hit issues could arrise with that method though.
If you did do It, I would go with a smaller pin also to reduce the chances of splittage, also expect the finish on the joint to chip, and dent easier as mentioned. Most wood joints sleeves I have seen, easily show this kind of wear over time, some more then others, but have seen a few that held up nice when well cared for by the owner.
If you did do It, I would go with a smaller pin also to reduce the chances of splittage, also expect the finish on the joint to chip, and dent easier as mentioned. Most wood joints sleeves I have seen, easily show this kind of wear over time, some more then others, but have seen a few that held up nice when well cared for by the owner.
joint collar
I have used wooden joint colars for 15, years with no problems. I would suggest that you make the tenon, at the joint end of the butt, a little smaller than the usual .625. Also if you make the wooden joint collar on the butt 3/4" or 1" with decorative rings behind it. Then on the shaft you will only have the decorative rings & without the problem of lining up the grain lines. Shuler Cues have been using wooden joint rings longer that I have, because I got my insperation from them...JERnewo9277 said:
joint collar
That looks OK to me, but I've never used anything, but the wooden rings....that's all???...JERnewo9277 said:
That looks great, as long as everything is faced off.