Joint Materials

cubswin

Just call me Joe...
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Was wondering if anyone could tell me about using cueball material as a joint. How does it perform?

Saw it listed as a option on a cuemakers web site and was just wondering about it. Didn't know if it was a common or uncommon material, and if it worked well.
 
cubswin said:
Was wondering if anyone could tell me about using cueball material as a joint. How does it perform?

Saw it listed as a option on a cuemakers web site and was just wondering about it. Didn't know if it was a common or uncommon material, and if it worked well.


Well it's essentially like linen phenolic but without the linen reinforcement. It polishes out nice and stays clean, but is not very durable for joints and ringwork. I have some of the same material that was made into a rod form back in tha 70's. Hyatt sold some to National Billiards "under protest" I'm told. They did not want to supply the materials but made a one time exception so that National could test it as a ferrule and joint material. It looks great for a while but eventually gets very yellow! And like I said there is a durability issue when compared to linen phenolic.

Sherm
 
Watch out for those cueballs with metal inside when turning some of those old cue balls down. Those kind are no good for It. Greg
 
I've used those and even done some scrimshaw with it lately. I haven't had any problems with it as a joint or buttcap but ferrules do crack and deflect a ton :D
 
Thanks guys

Not sure what I'm going to get, probably stainless. Depends who I order from, the cueball sounds interesting. Cuemaker that offers it is making a great case for trying it, so I might go that route if I have him make the cue.

(as a side note..I hate getting quotes for cues, feel like I'm wasting someones time if I go with another maker....) there I feel better now that I've typed that out..
 
cubswin said:
Thanks guys

(as a side note..I hate getting quotes for cues, feel like I'm wasting someones time if I go with another maker....) there I feel better now that I've typed that out..

If you are going to spend $400 plus on a custom cue than you shouldn't feel bad about "wasting" someones time. You are spending good money - lots of money - you need to be happy and comfortable that you made the right decisions on what you want and who you want to spend your money with. I ordered a custom cue from Gus Szamboti 30 some years ago. He discussed that cue with me - what I wanted, what he would build - I think he understood it was a lot of money for me and wanted me to be happy and comfortable with the decisions on the cue.
Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com
 
Jack Madden said:
I ordered a custom cue from Gus Szamboti 30 some years ago. He discussed that cue with me - what I wanted, what he would build - I think he understood it was a lot of money for me and wanted me to be happy and comfortable with the decisions on the cue.
I hope you still have it. :)

Tracy
 
Jack Madden said:
If you are going to spend $400 plus on a custom cue than you shouldn't feel bad about "wasting" someones time. You are spending good money - lots of money - you need to be happy and comfortable that you made the right decisions on what you want and who you want to spend your money with. I ordered a custom cue from Gus Szamboti 30 some years ago. He discussed that cue with me - what I wanted, what he would build - I think he understood it was a lot of money for me and wanted me to be happy and comfortable with the decisions on the cue.
Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com


I think my problem is that I got quotes from three cue makers for this cue. All of who I would love to build me a cue. Makes it hard to make a choice, because all three have their benifits. And I tend to ask questions, so I'm using up time knowing that only one of the three will get the order. All three of the ones I've talked to have been great, couldn't ask for better customer service.

And part of it is I work in a service industry, and understand that you may work something up for someone and never get the order. Thats a frustration, and for me makes me wonder if I missed something. In this case no one is missing anything. Everyone is close on price, and all three are very capable cue makers, so I couldn't exclude anyone based on price.

Would be nice to win the lottery and get all three *lol* But alas reality is that isn't going to happen.
 
RSB-Refugee said:
I hope you still have it. :)

Tracy

So do I. Gus put a heart inlay in it - and I know he did one other similar to it. I am pretty sure I know what collection it is in. One of those collectors that is invited to show the family collection once a year in places like Riudoso, NM and Park City, Utah. So maybe I will get to see it again.
Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com
 
Jack Madden said:
So do I. Gus put a heart inlay in it - and I know he did one other similar to it. I am pretty sure I know what collection it is in. One of those collectors that is invited to show the family collection once a year in places like Riudoso, NM and Park City, Utah. So maybe I will get to see it again.
Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com
At least it has a happy home and not sitting in some dark, dank basement. ;)

Tracy
 
cubswin said:
Was wondering if anyone could tell me about using cueball material as a joint. How does it perform?

Saw it listed as a option on a cuemakers web site and was just wondering about it. Didn't know if it was a common or uncommon material, and if it worked well.
compress the hemp theres your joint... joking cue ball joints are to briddle use ivorne 3 or some thing hits nice.
 
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