Joint Thread Tightness

BRKNRUN

BRKNRUN

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Say you have a radial wood/wood flat face joint cue with two shafts.

One shaft scews on with fairly loose threads - and a bit of wobble until it is tightend down completly.

The other shaft screws on with farly snug threads - no wobble as it is tightened down.

Obviously you don't want the thread pattarn too tight as you may crack the shaft while screwing it on, but the Question is...

Would this difference have any effect on the hit of the cue?

My hunch is that the looser thread (even though tightened down snug) could create just enough room for some vibration and loss of transfer of hit.

Thoughts??? ..... (cuemakers???)
 
from my experience new shafts are tight, some super tight and need a little soap to get them on. but they all end up loosening after being screwed and unscrewed over and over. i dont think that the tighter ones would have any advantage though. i have never had a new one loose or a used one tight so i would think that if there was an advantage, you would have to replace them when they loosen up.
 
BRKNRUN said:
Say you have a radial wood/wood flat face joint cue with two shafts.

One shaft scews on with fairly loose threads - and a bit of wobble until it is tightend down completly.

The other shaft screws on with farly snug threads - no wobble as it is tightened down.

Obviously you don't want the thread pattarn too tight as you may crack the shaft while screwing it on, but the Question is...

Would this difference have any effect on the hit of the cue?

My hunch is that the looser thread (even though tightened down snug) could create just enough room for some vibration and loss of transfer of hit.

Thoughts??? ..... (cuemakers???)
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Try this the next time you go to play pool. Give your case to a friend and while you are not looking have him/her put your cue together. Now play with the cue for awhile. Next take a break and use the bathroom. While in the bathroom have your friend change the shaft on your cue to the other shaft in the case. See if you can tell a difference in the hit. If you can, then see which hit you like better and continue to use that shaft. In summary if there is a difference in the fit tolereances I think you will be hard pressed to be able to tell the difference.

Kevin
 
Ant812 said:
from my experience new shafts are tight, some super tight and need a little soap to get them on. but they all end up loosening after being screwed and unscrewed over and over. i dont think that the tighter ones would have any advantage though. i have never had a new one loose or a used one tight so i would think that if there was an advantage, you would have to replace them when they loosen up.
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I have a McDermott D-13 wood to wood 3/8x10 pin that is the tightest cue I have ever put together. I have had no issues with the shaft splitting but I will admit that when I first got it I was sure I had the wrong shaft. I also have to check often because I am worried that I am cross threading it. I have a D-10 that goes together so loosely it is silly. I don't know what the differance is in the manufacturing, but it night and day.
 
Talk about tight

My Mike Bender cue shafts are so tight that sometimes it all but takes two people to break down the cue for me to put it away when I am finished shooting with it. I love the cue with that exception.

Kevin
 
Kevin Lindstrom said:
Try this the next time you go to play pool. Give your case to a friend and while you are not looking have him/her put your cue together. Now play with the cue for awhile. Next take a break and use the bathroom. While in the bathroom have your friend change the shaft on your cue to the other shaft in the case. See if you can tell a difference in the hit. If you can, then see which hit you like better and continue to use that shaft. In summary if there is a difference in the fit tolereances I think you will be hard pressed to be able to tell the difference.

Kevin
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It would be an unfair test since I already know the differences between shafts....and they don't have the same ring work on them.

Meh...It is just something I am messing with...I have two shafts...The one I like better does not have the same hit/sound as the one I don't like.

Funny how the "sound" of hit can be so bothersome.
 
Kevin Lindstrom said:
Try this the next time you go to play pool. Give your case to a friend and while you are not looking have him/her put your cue together. Now play with the cue for awhile. Next take a break and use the bathroom. While in the bathroom have your friend change the shaft on your cue to the other shaft in the case. See if you can tell a difference in the hit. If you can, then see which hit you like better and continue to use that shaft. In summary if there is a difference in the fit tolereances I think you will be hard pressed to be able to tell the difference.

Kevin
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If the shaft that has the loose threads tightens up tight I doubt that you would notice anything as far as vibration since it's tight and the joint is snug. I guess it's possible, but I don't think i'd notice it at all and if you don't think about it and just play you will be fine.

James
 
I had a shaft made for my Southwest that was so tight when you unscrewed it the pin was warm/hot. The shaft didn't play as good as the originals so I hardly use it anymore, but I wonder if that would be considered too tight?
 
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