Judd Trump - a star is born

TheThaiger

TheThaiger

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Any fan of cue sports HAS to take a good look at this guy. Anyone that pots balls on a snooker table like he's playing on a pool table is a freak. I'm not convinced he'll achieve much in the game - he has many weaknesses - but I've never seen anyone play like that, ever. He even makes Ronnie look a little pedestrian in comparison.
 
TheThaiger said:
Any fan of cue sports HAS to take a good look at this guy. Anyone that pots balls on a snooker table like he's playing on a pool table is a freak. I'm not convinced he'll achieve much in the game - he has many weaknesses - but I've never seen anyone play like that, ever. He even makes Ronnie look a little pedestrian in comparison.
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Ya I guess winning the China open and almost winning the worlds amounts to not achieving much :rolleyes:
In order to over come his weaknesses he must first learn
pivot point
CTE
BHE
Pro whatever
FHE
MBE
OBE
ADD
MTV
CBC
NBC
DVD
STD
Then and only then will he achieve anything.
 
If you look at the list of players who have made it to the finals of the World Championships as early in their life as Judd has, Steve Davis, Stephen Hendry and Alex Higgins. That's some pretty good company.
 
Judd Trump made a lot of jaw-dropping shots that continued to amaze the commentators until the very end. Extremely entertaining to watch. It could be argued that Higgins played a better strategic game in the finals, but I'm sure Judd will mature into a true champion. That said, most players never make it this far in their careers.
 
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He really impresed the hell out of me...the semi-final with Ding was really great. I hope to see Trump and Ding as the next great snooker rivalry.
 
Ding and Trump heirs to the throne

That makes two of us. Ding and Trump are both still in their early twenties, both have incredible talent, and both have shown that they can produce quality snooker under pressure. Them with Selby, Murhphy, Allen, and Robertson are the new wave that's about to take over snooker.

However, I still think that the old guard, Higgins, Williams, O'Sullivan, and the rest are not going to go out without a fight. And a lot of them, Stevens and Lee for example, have found their game again and are coming back stronger than ever. To add to that, Hendry will continue his caree and plans to play in every tournament the next season. How great is that?

As for those shots, what can you say? Saw Trumps red down the cushion live, and still can't believe he actually went for it and nailed it. What kind of shots is this guy making in practice, I wonder...

J.S.

Bobby said:
He really impresed the hell out of me...the semi-final with Ding was really great. I hope to see Trump and Ding as the next great snooker rivalry.
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He did break o'sullivans record of youngest player to do a maximum, when making a 147 at a junior tournament when beeing 14 at the time. It will be interesting to see what this young phenom will be able to do in the future!
 
Jocke said:
He did break o'sullivans record of youngest player to do a maximum, when making a 147 at a junior tournament when beeing 14 at the time. It will be interesting to see what this young phenom will be able to do in the future!
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Nothing, unless he learns how to score. My feeling is he's a more of a shot maker than a scorer. In football parlance, he's a scorer of great goals, not a great goalscorer.
 
sydbarret said:
# 3 was more impressive than both 1 and 2.
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I'd have to disagree. Perhaps the shot itself may have been slightly better (although that's arguable) but in #3 he'd just won the match and threw his cue at it, not bothered if it went in. In #2 he potted that to make a century and #1 was in a completely live frame.
 
TheThaiger said:
Nothing, unless he learns how to score. My feeling is he's a more of a shot maker than a scorer. In football parlance, he's a scorer of great goals, not a great goalscorer.
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That's somewhat unfair given that he's already won a ranking event and become 2nd in the world championships. I don't think your analogy works.

He does have weaknesses, but "scoring" is not one of them. I think his inexperience in big and important matches showed, especially against someone like Higgins.
 
As far as his scoring ability, Judd Trump has 110 centuries in 6 seasons. Contrast that to Neil Robertson who has 159 centuries in 13 seasons. If they maintain their pace Judd will overtake him.

It's worth mentioning that, Alex Higgins had not made 100 centuries, I think it was closer to 60.
 
Judd Trump ain't no "flash in the pan"

JarnoV said:
That's somewhat unfair given that he's already won a ranking event and become 2nd in the world championships. I don't think your analogy works.

He does have weaknesses, but "scoring" is not one of them. I think his inexperience in big and important matches showed, especially against someone like Higgins.
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Jarno:

I agree wholeheartedly. Those from the "old guard" like to say things like that about up-and-coming younger players -- basically implying (or just plain saying straight out) that these younger players that appear on the scene with brilliant play and showing a lot of promise, are just "flashes in the pan." I don't think this applies to Judd Trump at all.

In fact, I'd been singing Judd's praises for the past year, with posts like this one:

sfleinen said:
Yes, Neil's a killer as well. Not as flashy/nonchalant as Ronnie, but very effective. Ronnie needs to bring his top game to play Neil, and he definitely didn't last night.

One other snooker talent to carefully watch, is that youngster, Judd Trump. (You'll know when you see him -- he looks like a brunette version of a very young Andy Warhol -- same "fly away" hair, as if he touched a Van de Graaff generator.) He has probably the straightest cueing action I've ever seen -- no fidget or wobble during delivery at all. And although still a bit raw (he's only 20 years old), he did Ronnie in as well. This kid is going places if he stays with it, that's for sure!

-Sean
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I especially like his 113 century break in the 2011 China open against Mark Selby, where, after Mark's opening break, Judd proceeds to clear the table, and then towards the end of the break (frame already won l-o-n-g ago), he really starts to loosen-up and show his powerful stroke, tattooing the back of the pockets and making the cue ball dance and swerve for perfect position:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uJx25SKYo00

I'll go out on a limb and say that Judd's going places, real fast, and quite soon!

-Sean
 
Judd Trump looks like a mix between Ronnie O'Sullivan and Neil Robertson. His game is inspiring.
 
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TheThaiger said:
Nothing, unless he learns how to score. My feeling is he's a more of a shot maker than a scorer. In football parlance, he's a scorer of great goals, not a great goalscorer.
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Centuries - Trump 10 - Higgins 9

JUDD TRUMP 123 v DING JUNHUI (SEMI-FINALS)
JUDD TRUMP 122 v NEIL ROBERTSON (ROUND 1)
JUDD TRUMP 110 v DING JUNHUI (SEMI-FINALS)
JUDD TRUMP 108 v MARTIN GOULD (ROUND 2)
JUDD TRUMP 105 v DING JUNHUI (SEMI-FINAL)
JUDD TRUMP 104 v JOHN HIGGINS (FINAL)
JUDD TRUMP 104 v GRAEME DOTT (Q-FINALS)
JUDD TRUMP 103 v JOHN HIGGINS (FINAL)
JUDD TRUMP 102 v JOHN HIGGINS (FINAL)
JUDD TRUMP 102 v DING JUNHUI (SEMI-FINALS)

JOHN HIGGINS 135 v MARK WILLIAMS (SEMI-FINAL)
JOHN HIGGINS 132 v STEPHEN LEE (ROUND 1)
JOHN HIGGINS 131 v STEPHEN LEE (ROUND 1)
JOHN HIGGINS 124 v STEPHEN LEE (ROUND 1)
JOHN HIGGINS 123 v MARK WILLIAMS (SEMI-FINAL)
JOHN HIGGINS 121 v RONNIE O'SULLIVAN (Q-FINALS)
JOHN HIGGINS 120 v MARK WILLIAMS (SEMI-FINALS)
JOHN HIGGINS 113 v JUDD TRUMP (FINAL)
JOHN HIGGINS 101 v STEPHEN LEE (ROUND 1)
 
JarnoV said:
That's somewhat unfair given that he's already won a ranking event and become 2nd in the world championships. I don't think your analogy works.

He does have weaknesses, but "scoring" is not one of them. I think his inexperience in big and important matches showed, especially against someone like Higgins.
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How many times did he play a tremendous shot to get in, then see the break fizzle out? If he doesn't consistently convert chances, the opposition will find a way of playing him.

Based entirely on the last 2 weeks, I'd say his safety game is too poor to fulfil the potential his potting shows. He was also too frequently out of position to really score - he likes to move the cueball too much too.

He should improve these areas, of course, but his potting masked big deficiencies in his overall game IMO.
 
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