Just curious what's u'r rating..

Andrew Manning said:
Yeah, that's how it works, in 8-ball at least. APA doesn't get all that many A players, so people who are 7's are usually in the B to A- range, I think. At least that seems true among the 5 or so 7's who play where I play.

I'm a 6, and I'd guess I'm probably a C or C+ player, but I'm on my way up!

-Andrew
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If someone is playing in an area that is full of very strong players, and they aren't winning all that often, their rating will be depressed by the excellence all around them.

There's a fellow in Chicago who, I think, is an APA 5 there, is a 9-1 handicapped at Chris's in 9 ball, and who, I'm told, won the APA 8 ball national tournament some years ago.

Apparently there were some folks who watched him play at his APA 5 level and thought he had sandbagged his way to that level just to be able to compete in the nationals. Well, guess what. He's probably an APA SL5 in the Windy City. Lots of tough competition there. Send him elsewhere and he's much stronger. Certainly stronger than some of the 7's I've seen in other places.

My 2 cents worth; I could be wrong.

Flex
 
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Flex said:
If someone is playing in an area that is full of very strong players, and they aren't winning all that often, their rating will be depressed by the excellence all around them.

There's a fellow in Chicago who, I think, is an APA 5 there, is a 9-1 handicapped at Chris's in 9 ball, and who, I'm told, won the APA 8 ball national tournament some years ago.

Apparently there were some folks who watched him play at his APA 5 level and thought he had sandbagged his way to that level just to be able to compete in the nationals. Well, guess what. He's probably an APA SL5 in the Windy City. Lots of tough competition there. Send him elsewhere and he's much stronger. Certainly stronger than some of the 7's I've seen in other places.

My 2 cents worth; I could be wrong.

Flex
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What's the name of this Chicago player, if you don't mind me asking ?
 
1 Pocket Ghost said:
What's the name of this Chicago player, if you don't mind me asking ?
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Don't know his last name. He's an older Chinese guy (ancestry that is, I think). "DJ" or "DT" or something close to that, if memory serves.

Flex
 
Flex said:
If someone is playing in an area that is full of very strong players, and they aren't winning all that often, their rating will be depressed by the excellence all around them.

There's a fellow in Chicago who, I think, is an APA 5 there, is a 9-1 handicapped at Chris's in 9 ball, and who, I'm told, won the APA 8 ball national tournament some years ago.

Apparently there were some folks who watched him play at his APA 5 level and thought he had sandbagged his way to that level just to be able to compete in the nationals. Well, guess what. He's probably an APA SL5 in the Windy City. Lots of tough competition there. Send him elsewhere and he's much stronger. Certainly stronger than some of the 7's I've seen in other places.

My 2 cents worth; I could be wrong.

Flex
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This is exactly true
It all depends on where you play and who you play against.
As far as I know the APA/CPA is geared towards beginners and very occasional players who want to get out there and play. This being the scenario, it would not be realistic to judge someone on their APA/CPA class because you don't know they would be that class in your town.

I play in the VNEA here in Montreal and I and my team usually do well. I am 24th out of almost 600 players and my team is in 12th place out of 100. I have never been to Vegas but I have been told that (by friends that have had the privilege of going) NO teams from Montreal would stand a chance against 1/2 the teams there. I am ranked as a 9 in the league here but if I go to Calgary (for all you that don't know geography) Canada where the leagues are much older and stronger, I might drop down to a 7 or 8.

Anyways, in 8 ball I will usually run 5-7 balls on my first turn. That’s why I am only a 9. I need to either run fewer balls or finish it on my 1st try.
 
Here where I live I am probably 2nd best, an A+, only because I can beat everyone. But then they are all over 60 and can't play.

At the local bar on 8-ball night I'm probably a B since I beat most of them.

Everywhere else I am probably a C.

According to Capelle's rating system I most likely would be a C-.

Jake
 
jjinfla said:
Here where I live I am probably 2nd best, an A+, only because I can beat everyone. But then they are all over 60 and can't play.

At the local bar on 8-ball night I'm probably a B since I beat most of them.

Everywhere else I am probably a C.

According to Capelle's rating system I most likely would be a C-.

Jake
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How does Capelle rate players' speed?

Flex
 
I rate myself as a low B. I was a decent 7 in APA and TAP doing well against all but the strong 7's in the area.
 
It really depends on the group of players you play with.

Someone i had a friend who moved down south, and up here in Michigan in one town he was rated an A, in Grand Rapids, he was AA go figure.

Now on a wider field of play, he would probably be a solid A player.


I myself, in my area, i am probably a Solid B player, maybe BB if i am really playing top notch.

On the wider scale, i am probably no better than a C+ maybe B-, and yes if i get ball in hand or a open shot on a table, i am generally out, depending on the table layout.

From the break, on a 9ft table, i can generally run 6-7 balls, thats when i make 1 ball on the break, obviously when i make 2 or 3 balls i normally run the table.

And no this isnt every time. I do have my rack where i dont have a shot, or am just pushing or trying to play safe. So its not like i am running balls every time.

dave
 
Not sure..

Last time I played they were laughing so hard trying to find a new letter. I think they will be using an old Greek Alphabet...I might be a Gamma.
 
> I am an "S" for sux if I play out anywhere.....maybe "RS" really sux...
> some nights I'm a "V" in my home room for Vodka.....and I think I play well?
> and most days I"m an "H" for head case because I can't run 100 balls! on my easy ass table:D

Gerry
 
Flex said:
If someone is playing in an area that is full of very strong players, and they aren't winning all that often, their rating will be depressed by the excellence all around them.
Flex
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This is why the BCA has an advantage; Handicaps are based upon the strength of the local league you are playing in and is limited to just that. At the Nationals each May in Vegas, handicaps are not used. The excitement I believe this National tournament offers is it allows players to compete on an even ground to get a chance at bragging rights. I have seen some very happy players who made it past just the first 3 rounds and to them this was a magnificent feat. Not only do they share in the excitement of competing head on, but they get to meet the many players from North America.


I do like the APA "Race" format, though in a non-handicap tournament it favors the stronger shooter because he has a chance to read his opponent.

The only way we could get close to a fair handicap system is to require a player card and scores updated on a national level. Just like in golf, every time you play at a pool hall against someone or in a tournament your results get posted. What makes this better than golf is in golf only 3 other people see you play while in pool the room has an opportunity to watch.
 
Ktown D said:
My game is a bit of an enigma. When I used to play regularly I was competitve in open tournaments but certainly not a favorite. The best showing I ever had was 2nd in a large U.S. Open qualifier tourney. I have won quite a few open tournaments in the last few years even though I play 3 times a month max. I have beaten 2 former world champs in tournaments and AA players say they hate to draw me. Alas, I am rated a C in the local handicap tourney (was a B a few different times) and struggle to cash. I guess I am an inconsistent B. :confused:
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Sorry, but I had to call bullshit on this one. Made me laugh though, thanks.
 
I think ratings fluctuate quite a bit. According to the rating system I posted in the other thread I'd say I'm a B about 65% of the time. An A 10% of the time and a C 25% of the time. LOL
 
I'm a SL7 in APA 8-Ball, a SL8 in 9-Ball and have a "9" average in our five X five Valley league.
 
Wow, this thread came out pretty interesting..

I've never seen so many people going from A to C in one sentance.. ;) :D

I believe the ratings are based upon the higher end of your capabillity. Everyone has a bad night (C) and can't get out from the 7 to save there life. Then walks in the next day to string a couple racks on the guy that just beat you the night before. Just becuase you have run 2 racks doesn't make you an A though.. And just becuase you had a bad night doesn't make you a C either. On average most people (my opinion) play about 75 - 80 percent of there speed. 20 - 25 percent fluctuation on fluke nights.. Either 25% down (bad night) or 25% up (full speed) very very good night. I dunno.

I will say though that my mouth hit the floor from the guy that took out world beaters, and AA's hate to draw him in a tourny but he's rated a C? There alot of combinations involved in these games or something? That's a pretty far spread between the two?

DJ
 
I don't know what I am. I was a 7 in APA 8ball over 8 years ago, I do well in the BCA/VNEA leagues now but can't win against the local short stops gambling, although I can knock the occasional big shot out of a tournament every now and again.

Local Denver players feel free to jump in and rate me, what am I? I can tell you that when I play good I play pretty good, but when I play bad, I play BAD.

More info: have run 4 racks of 9b and 8b more than once but it's probably several months or so between runs like that. I do 2 racks just about every night I play, 3 racks occasionally.

Alex
 
Alex Kanapilly said:
I don't know what I am. I was a 7 in APA 8ball over 8 years ago, I do well in the BCA/VNEA leagues now but can't win against the local short stops gambling, although I can knock the occasional big shot out of a tournament every now and again.

Local Denver players feel free to jump in and rate me, what am I? I can tell you that when I play good I play pretty good, but when I play bad, I play BAD.

More info: have run 4 racks of 9b and 8b more than once but it's probably several months or so between runs like that. I do 2 racks just about every night I play, 3 racks occasionally.

Alex
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If your running 2 racks "consecutively" every night then you sound like a medium to high "B" / low "A" to me.. Running 4 racks consecutively is solid freakin A though.. LOL

DJ
 
I wouldn't know how to rate myself, I am probably top 5 in the 40 or 50 players I play with. Who knows how we play compared to the rest of the world. These 40 or 50 players run the gambit from mediocre to very good, so I am very good in my little world but would get my butt kicked in the real world I suppose. It's all relative until you play national or world wide opponents.
 
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