Just finished up recovering 8 tables in 2 days! :)

trentfromtoledo

8onthebreaktoledo
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I don't prefer to work on Valleys, but, my home room Miscue South, next my shop has 12 of them. They also have 9 GC3's and 2 Diamonds that I restored for them. It is my responsibility to take care of all the tables. So I must work on them.

On the last12-Valley recover we stripped and cleaned off ALL of the multiple types of adhesives that people have used over the years. We used a secret adhesive stripper that removed all the old adhesive with ease and NO HEAVY SCRAPING. We started fresh with RKC250, 12 new sets of Penguin K55 Rails and CPBA Pro cloth. The cloth wore very well and played great IMO. The price was really amazing. I recommend this cloth for people who are on a budget. The only thing I noticed was the dye faded a lil faster, but, it was very strong and played fast.

The owner decided he wanted to go with Simonis this time and Blue Green was available so that was up to him.

Not having to worry about who did the tables before was GREAT. I do love to pick & choose the work I take on and I choose not to work on junk tables that need hours & hours of extra work.

I have been installing a lil bit of Simonis lately(not by choice, I am a Champ Tour 30/30 guy) and noticed the stretch index and finish of the cloth has changed... The stretch index I came up for the 860 was 1 1/2"( usually more like 2 1/8"????) and so thats what I used to do the tables side to side and the same on each end. I stretched these tables TIGHT> Pockets finish is always easier on the thinner slates of the Valley tables, so of course the tabs are all on the bottom and no visible cuts :) I even decided to go with the fold this time and not the fold-less side pocket method. The fold is MUCH easier than the no-fold method.

The first video I ever watched for Valley rails 3 years ago was the Penguin Rails video. I made up my own method based on that and I stapled some, but, not the entire rails. My computer in the shop back then had a non working DVD drive in it and I could not watch the SImonis DVD Valley rail parts... Fast forward to now: Friday night I watched the Simonis DVD on a newer laptop for the Valley rails( the Valley bed cloth video is a waste of time IMO) and learned some new tricks. I managed to merge my old way with some of the new things I saw and whipped out 4 sets that night for the next day. I average about an hour per set. The owner of the pool room was nice enough to buy 4 new sets of Penguin K55 so we have a set to cover before we touch the first table. <----- Very very convenient and helps the room with less down time for the tables.

I Reduced the amount of staples SO MUCH . 5 staples for the side pockets and 9 on the corners. Had to use the 3M-77 for rails, a nice oscillating fan and open shop door for fresh air, wasn't terrible. I have my own way of using the RKC250 to install bedcloth, its different and I have good success with it. I measure and use lines to stretch to. Very effective.

Trained a new guy over the last 2 days and he is on his way back to Illinois. I have to finish up rails tomorrow eve and then the last 4 beds Tuesday :)

If any of you are near Toledo: Stop in an play some racks! The Valleys play nice, for Valleys of course ;)

TFT

Here are some pics from day one and two:



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A big thanks to Sean Tuffner @tuffstuff07 for coming out from Illinois and training with me. He is a very good guy and is going to start servicing his area in the near future! He is the first person I have shown and explained my adhesive edge bond method in complete detail, he even has pics. He is a very good pool player and I have lots to learn from him. He beat me pretty bad on the bar box the first night when we got done working and I got him back at the one pocket before he headed home yesterday!

I look forward to having you back early September to work on our 9- 9' GC3's! I met Sean a couple of years ago, he bought a restored 9' Diamond Professional(red label). He also helped sell another one to a friend of his. I have sold 4 tables in his area and love repeat business. I truly am blessed to be able to get great customers, become friends with some of them and in this case: do business with them as well. Truly a great situation.

This business has been so good to my family, I love getting to FINALLY share it with someone else. Sean is the first person I have started training and it seems fitting since I just had my 10 Year Anniversary!!! Thanks to all who support me on here, even my "fanclub" they let me know I am making waves too! GOD BLESS

TFT

P.s. Sean getting the slates evened up to go back in their boxes!!

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No, But my friends that do would certainly appreciate your expertise. I've had my own table covered twice in 3 years and still am not happy with the results. You know the old saying about "can't get good help".
If I am ever on the road and near your area, I will definitely reach out to see if you are in need of a recover! What brand and model is your table?
It is so crazy that there is no one in so many areas that can do a solid recover. I am not talking about "being the best" or any of that crap, rather, just good work. Staples or Adhesive Edge Bond, I am able to do the job.

Working in pool rooms is very very tough, most owners love making money off of pool, booze, and food, but, do not want to pay to have their tables in top condition. Add that to having people who NEED the work and they end up doing a sub par job because of the low amount of $$ they accepted to do it. @jay helfert told me this: "Sometimes NO, is OK." I don't mind a challenging client and negotiating a little, but, there is a big difference between that and trying to negotiate with a greedy person. Some minds cant be changed to your benefit. I see those situations now and simply walk away. I know what I want to do and what I do not. The worst feeling in business is knowing you gave more than you should have and got little in return. Saying no and walking on to the next gig is the right thing for me to do!

TFT

P.s. I love having Miscue in Toledo to showcase my work, so many people on here travel and know what good work is. I would love for those people to stop in and play some pool, with or with out me!! About to recover all 9 of the 9' GC3's I restored for them of next month with Tour Edition 30/30, this will be the second recover since all that work!
 
I was surprised how tough it is to find capable mechanics. I looked hard at a lot of tables in our area and the majority were recovered so poorly that I didnt want that person covering my table. Maybe I am just a little too OCD because I find duct tape holding the cloth in place under pockets is unacceptable as are wrinkles in the rail cloth. If that's what someone is looking for I can find plenty of people to recover your pool table.
 
I was surprised how tough it is to find capable mechanics. I looked hard at a lot of tables in our area and the majority were recovered so poorly that I didnt want that person covering my table. Maybe I am just a little too OCD because I find duct tape holding the cloth in place under pockets is unacceptable as are wrinkles in the rail cloth. If that's what someone is looking for I can find plenty of people to recover your pool table.
It’s tough in most places….
 
Looks awesome. Always liked Miss Cue S. But it’s been a while.

Is there still the North location?

(Have family near the zoo area off 24 and Glendale)
Yes the North Miscue is still open. I am working at the South location. Holler at me anytime you are in town and would like to shoot! Below is my contact info or shoot me a message on here!

TFT
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