just got Stroketrianer, upcoming review

[drivermaker]

I think he meant Freethrow shooting.
Freethrow shooting is comparable.
Place your right leg directly in front of the rim ( if you have the rim in the middle of your body, you're shooting across ).
Elbow and wrist in line. As little movement with the upper arm the shoot with a good follow. Sound familiar?

I understand now. It was like the other day there was this guy in the room standing on the table and shooting his shots from between his legs. I had never seen anything like this, so I asked him..."hey, what the f*#k are you doing"? He replied, "I like to use the same form when I'm playing pool as I do when I shoot freethrows in basketball". I said, "duh...huh"? He answered, "I use the Bob Cousy method".
NOW, this has come into focus and cleared everything up for me. Thanks Joey....

 

[LastTwo]

Oh to have a straight stroke is Ideal and reliable for Consistancy hugh?I have a straight stroke and I did disagree per experience of what I have seen.I am not trying to open up a can of worms but this is a subject that comes up alot.Ralph Greenleaf and Ervin Crain odd strokes to the so called banna stroke and side stroke from time to time as does Efrin.I Guess what your saying is that these guys and others are incorrect and inconsistant?They were unaware of a straight stroke?Listen we can go down the list of things people do wrong and look at the pros and see the sight lines off and the cue to the right and whatnot.Stance incorrect and bridge loose.Seems they do well.I think yes there is a basic format that is ideal.I also think that many players hurt themselves by trying to do what is so called "The proper way".If a guy can run 50 or 75 balls in straight pool are you gonna run up to that player and tell him he is incorrect because he has a slip stroke or a banna stroke?He or she is standing wrong?If so I know a few and I am sure you will be asking them for weight while you tell them what they are doing wrong.Yes there is a basic format but I also think YES do what is comfortable and works for you also.Like I said training devices are good to a point but I think the guy needs to see and experienced trainer prior to buying all the gizmos.A trainer will be able to properly evaluate what this person needs.THEN if the trainer suggests what is it this time oh "strokemaster" then thats what the guy should use.I mean Mosconi had a strokemaster did he not?I am sorry I am a strong beleaver in teching and I think teachers are your best investment.To be honest with you I think the shooters nowdays with all the fancy cues and gizmos are nothing near the strength of the shooters of long ago that had wood and a piece of leather glued or nailed yes nailed on the cue.The older shooters learned by being tought by teachers not gizmos.

Stop putting words in my mouth you dummy. Note that in my last post I said the backstroke doesn't matter. If you actually watch the pros, disregard what they do on their back stroke and watch how straight their forward stroke is. They all have this in common. I have watched this very intently, have you? Efren, Luat, Bustamante, Bassavich, Varner, Davenport, YOU NAME IT, they might have crooked backstrokes but that doesn't matter. They all have very straight forward strokes (unless they use backhand english). You say that your stroke is straight, I think you should really look at it closely because if it was straight you would probably agree with me.

 

[LastTwo]

By the way I am not a fan of the stroketrainer, the intent of my post was not to defend it.

 

[sponge bob]

Hey guys,
I appreciate all the responses! When I said I could run a rack of 9 70% of the time, it is when I practice, spread the balls around and get ball in hand. Come to think of it, it is probably much, much lower. more like 40%.

I can understand how some of you say practice and feel is the only way to get better. In my particular situation, I played a lot for about 2.5 years (daily). Then I went on an extra long vacation so I played about 5 hours a day for 5 months. During this time I practiced drills, and mostly by myself. At this point I was not getting much better than a consistent C+. Yeah, I did have my spurts of breaking and running (three pack was my highest) but it never seemed to last, maybe a week or so. I finally got fed up and didnt play for about 1.5 years.
Well... I got back in it full force about 4 months ago and decided that I did have a very good game in me somewhere, buried...deep...inside. SO, I am trying to give this "game" the least amount of resistance to fully surface by having proper fundamentals and such. Didnt somebody say the definition of insanity is doing one thing the same way over and over but expecting different outcomes?

Thanks, Asgar

 

[JoeyInCali]

I understand now. It was like the other day there was this guy in the room standing on the table and shooting his shots from between his legs. I had never seen anything like this, so I asked him..."hey, what the f*#k are you doing"? He replied, "I like to use the same form when I'm playing pool as I do when I shoot freethrows in basketball". I said, "duh...huh"? He answered, "I use the Bob Cousy method".
NOW, this has come into focus and cleared everything up for me. Thanks Joey....

Bob Cousy? Jeesh, you're dating yourself bud.
Rick Barry shot freethrows caveman style and the dude never missed.

 

[excessknowledge]

Stop putting words in my mouth you dummy. Note that in my last post I said the backstroke doesn't matter. If you actually watch the pros, disregard what they do on their back stroke and watch how straight their forward stroke is. They all have this in common. I have watched this very intently, have you? Efren, Luat, Bustamante, Bassavich, Varner, Davenport, YOU NAME IT, they might have crooked backstrokes but that doesn't matter. They all have very straight forward strokes (unless they use backhand english). You say that your stroke is straight, I think you should really look at it closely because if it was straight you would probably agree with me.

I do agree with you to a point.I was not on the attack and if I sounded like it I am sorry.I was just stateing that I thought the funds he is useing for a gadjet could better be used by getting an instructor.I think with the availible trainers now "god bless them" that people should be jumping on the band wagon to get training.I meen you can actually learn from some of the best players that have existed.Yes you will pay a price but this price after these guys buy 20 cues and gadjets and whatever is the same if not less.Take G.Matthews for example.You can actually learn from the guy and what he could tech you for a few bucks will well exceed any investment into any of this stuff they are selling. I think I may have misread your reply wrong maybe.I took it as you were axing what I have posted.

 

[Opie]

I think he meant Freethrow shooting.
Freethrow shooting is comparable.
Place your right leg directly in front of the rim ( if you have the rim in the middle of your body, you're shooting across ).
Elbow and wrist in line. As little movement with the upper arm the shoot with a good follow. Sound familiar?

Hey guys, I think you all misunderstood me. I didn't mean that the shooting methods are anything the same. I was just referring to how each shooting style was taught when a player first started. In that they each have a classic, fundamental way of doing them. I must have not made my first post clear. Sorry for the confusion.