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Michael Webb

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Birdseye can be very hard to do with somewhat simple machines.

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The method used on the veneers was the overlapped method, 1 veneer, 1 side at a time, then I used a flush cut router to trim off the excess. After that each side went thru my jointer, so I lost 4 thousandths per side, so the .035 veneers became approx. .031. The reason for the jointer is because veneers are soft wood and the rate of glue absorption can and will vary, so the jointer can keep things flat. On the overlapped method the key is flat, especially from row to row. In the very first picture on one side, you can see a line along the purple to the second purple, that's because I glued the two purples together at the same time instead of doing one at a time, without the use of the jointer being used between the two layers it shows a darker line. For the past couple of years my personal Beast in the basement has been, why is mitered so much better than overlapped, especially when one or two veneered cues are done with the overlapped method. So the answer for me is, It's not better, just different which is why I have always argued the importance of both methods. On 99 percent of every cue out there with the mitered veneer, the inner points have always been a catch 22 on the sharpness of that inner point but they are acceptable because mitered veneers have been done. When seeing lines up the veneers, it has always been acceptable because they are mitered. But glue itself can give you a darker line especially on certain colors. Anyone else going nuts yet besides me.
 
On the overall, Glue lines whether they be mitered veneers or overlapped have never bothered me personally. Then I got a computer and started reading forums. In all seriousness, WTF,........Acceptable because it's this maker and unacceptable because it's that maker. This, that, he says, she says, up, down, down, up. Put your right foot in, take your right foot out, Put your left foot in, take your left foot out.

I don't know about you but I work with wood, it's not always easy but it is fun if you don't get to caught up in the B.S.
 
Hi Mike Square dance sat. night Hudson V.F.W.:DI also like both methods.I square my block on my lathe in between centers with a 3/4 bit last cut at .003 to make it nice and smooth.On the overlap I do opposite sides at the same time.Then go though my rotor table and sand flat.I also think the main point comes out nice and sharp.
 
Hi Mike Square dance sat. night Hudson V.F.W.:DI also like both methods.I square my block on my lathe in between centers with a 3/4 bit last cut at .003 to make it nice and smooth.On the overlap I do opposite sides at the same time.Then go though my rotor table and sand flat.I also think the main point comes out nice and sharp.


Yee Haa, I'm tapping my foot and slapping my knee just thinkin about it. :D
 
Nice

Great color combination. I think it looks great. I'm with you, I didn't know overlapped was donkey work until I was educated here.
someday when I master donkey work I might make a nice cue...LOL

JUST KIDDING ALL OF YOU LURKERS!!!!!
 
I can not tell if that was overlap, miter, or recut. But for sure I can't see any seam.:thumbup: Trying to profect it that it's another story.
 
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I can not tell if that was overlap, miter, or recut. But for sure I can't see any seam.:thumbup: Trying to profect it that it's another story.

Ahhhh, it's always about perfecting a certain technique no matter who you are, and how you do it, Consistency comes at many levels depending on wood, especially veneer colors, veneer suppliers and what dye they used, how they might dry it and the glue you yourself used to put it all together. Some veneers don't bleed with wood glue but bleed with epoxy.
 
On the overall, Glue lines whether they be mitered veneers or overlapped have never bothered me personally. Then I got a computer and started reading forums. In all seriousness, WTF,........Acceptable because it's this maker and unacceptable because it's that maker. This, that, he says, she says, up, down, down, up. Put your right foot in, take your right foot out, Put your left foot in, take your left foot out.

I don't know about you but I work with wood, it's not always easy but it is fun if you don't get to caught up in the B.S.



Kudos Mike, you the man.

:bow-down::bow-down::bow-down::bow-down:
 
Ahhhh, it's always about perfecting a certain technique no matter who you are, and how you do it, Consistency comes at many levels depending on wood, especially veneer colors, veneer suppliers and what dye they used, how they might dry it and the glue you yourself used to put it all together. Some veneers don't bleed with wood glue but bleed with epoxy.

Darrin Hill miter saw system.:smile:
 
Darrin Hill miter saw system.:smile:


Looks like a great system by a good guy, No arguments from me there, Darrin looks like he has something that works well for him
Do you have it yet?
Have you tried it yourself yet?
Can you show some sample of what you have done on your own?
I got a call from a Cue maker who bought a different set up by another Cue maker, his question was, I do everything the same but sometimes I get different results even on the same forearm, My answer was, your not him, meaning the guy who built the system, Your just human like the rest of us. I hope some people find meaning in that. Many different systems to achieve good results which is the purpose for most of the threads I start. They are not just for the purpose to start a thread, they are for the purpose to hopefully make people think about different options. If anyone has missed that point, you've missed it all. Don't listen to me or anyone else, EXPERIMENT with what you have to work with, you'll learn a whole lot more than what any forum can ever teach you. Forums are a point of reference by many different people, Nothing more.
 
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