Kamui Clear Install

Raildriver said:
Hey all, Kamui recommends using Loctite 401 for installation of Kamui Clear tips. What's everyone using that works best. I did try a Loctite gel, and it did not hold at all. Kamui does not recommend using a gel, and now I see why. (http://forums.azbilliards.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
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401 or prefessional are the two glues I recomend. I use that for all tip jobs and both glues works great, I think I had one tip fall of this year, I think I have done about 300 tips this year...
 
Loctite Gel

I must be living right!!! 30 plus Kamui Clear applications with Loctite Super Glue
Gel Control this year without a failure. Can't say that I do anything differently with the Clears than what I do with most any other tips. Rough sand - clean with denatured alcohol - glue - spread - set.
 
Kamui's statement that you don't have to sand the clears is Bogus, IMO, if you don't sand them flat, no matter what glue is used, it can/will fail. I always sand every tip on a flat plate, before and after priming them, and those clears ALWAYS have uneven surfaces right from the start....and if you don't sand them flat, and have a flat faced ferrule, you will have a failure at some point.
Dave
 
I have sanded and not sanded on others but i still feel.it needs some scuffing

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Yeah, always sand those clear tips. I have a slab of granite I sand tips on, Having perfectly flat surfaces is key!
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I always sand the glue surface on all of my installs but did not on the Kamui Clear because of the Kamui instructions. Of course it failed. Since I had to sand it to get it flush, I didn't have any problems with Loctite Pro afterwards.
 
Raildriver said:
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I always sand the glue surface on all of my installs but did not on the Kamui Clear because of the Kamui instructions. Of course it failed. Since I had to sand it to get it flush, I didn't have any problems with Loctite Pro afterwards.
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Great to hear.
Dave
 
I'd like to add that it doesn't take much to prep tips right. This includes the clear pads.

It only takes me 2-3 seconds on my lapping plate covered in 220 to accomplish the task.

All that really matters is leaving a matte surface.

On clear pads,I wipe the surface clean with a paper towel and denatured alcohol to remove the dust. Tommy D.
 
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