What is the difference between the new clear Kamui black tip and the old one without the clear pad? Is there any difference in the hit? I see a big difference in the price. Is it worth it getting new Kamui clear?
Kamui clear vs old Kamui
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I have customers that love them - won't go back to anything else.
But only YOU can know if it is better for YOU.
Try one out, see if you like it - it's only a tip - easily replaced.
Gary
How does the pad change the hit, wouldn't the pad alter the feel the ferrule gives with a normal tip?
Bob<<<<<<n00b
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Bob<<<<<<n00b
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What was explained to me is the clear pad doesn't allow glue to wick into the tip. This makes the tip play as designed as it is not hardened by absorbing glue.
Have not tried one yet for comparison.
Have not tried one yet for comparison.
Of course it does. On the other hand, you didn't like Kamui regular until you tried it either...did you?
I'm not sure a couple bucks is a BIG difference in price. I haven't increased my install prices for anyone who wants clear either.
The clear, and I would honestly like to see it in black, pad helps eliminate human error and glue starvation via a non permeable barrier. In short... sometimes the leather in a tip can soak up the glue during installation, causing "click" and failure(it pops off).
So the tip is the exact same but I'm guessing the pad makes the hit slightly harder?
No. It won't won't change the hardness of the tip at all. What it does is make it feel different. You may not even notice, but the fact is you are adding a piece of plastic to the ferrule and there is no getting around the fact that it won't be exactly the same as without a pad. Just like an ivory ferrule hits different without a pad.
I suggest you try one. If I put a tip on for someone, and I supply the tip, I'll guarantee they like it. If they don't, I'll change it for the cost of a tip only. I don't know if others do that, but it works for me.
Interesting but what about the glue that is holding the clear pad to the tip? Personally I like the Kamui blacks so well as they are that I'm not going to bother trying it at this point.
It's about consistency. It APPEARS that the layer next to the pad is slightly darker. As long as each one is done the same, and I have to assume there are, then it doesn't matter.
Don't overthink this. I also never notice the clear pad while shooting.
BTW, the height of the tip makes a very big difference as well. A repair guy can cut a SS down to the point it is pretty hard.
I installed a Kamui clear black medium on a cue recently that previously had a Kamui regular black medium on it. I can say that in my experience the clear does play a bit differently, but not by a whole lot. By different I don't mean it plays better, or worse...just a different feel.
I don't know how to describe it accurately, but the clear just has a bit more of a 'crisp' feel and sound to it. Almost as if the tip itself felt a bit harder or something, although I'd wager on a hardness tester they would both be the same.
Just my experience though, FWIW.
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PS: I will say that I take a certain pleasure in installing Kamui tips for some reason. I love the way the leather just peels off with a new blade and love the way they polish up so nicely. They are the only tip that I really enjoy trimming and shaping
I don't know how to describe it accurately, but the clear just has a bit more of a 'crisp' feel and sound to it. Almost as if the tip itself felt a bit harder or something, although I'd wager on a hardness tester they would both be the same.
Just my experience though, FWIW.
:thumbup:
PS: I will say that I take a certain pleasure in installing Kamui tips for some reason. I love the way the leather just peels off with a new blade and love the way they polish up so nicely. They are the only tip that I really enjoy trimming and shaping