I had a guy came to me to install one for him, and the layers look alot thinner than the standard layered tips. But I asked him how it was and how it played after a week or two and he said he liked it and had no problems. But I did take notice hw must have been really sanding it or roughing it up alot cause it was alot smaller then when I installed it so I dont know if he just trimmed it that much or what happened ,,<<ED