kevin Trudeau's Natural Cures

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Publishers Weekly Best-Sellers list has Kevin's book "Natural Cures 'They' don't want you to know about" number one in the nonfiction/general list.

So it appears that good old Kevin will have plenty of money to run the IPT tour through 2007.

No wonder Mike Sigel always has a wide smile on his face.
 
Before ..

Anyone just dismisses 'Natural cures' as nonsense,
they need to read the life story of 'Edgar Cayce',
titled 'There is a river'. It is an interesting read,
and just might alter your opinion.
 
Snapshot9 said:
Anyone just dismisses 'Natural cures' as nonsense,
they need to read the life story of 'Edgar Cayce',
titled 'There is a river'. It is an interesting read,
and just might alter your opinion.

There's no such thing as a natural cure. ALL treatments for all illnesses come from something in nature, but people seem to think that just because a chemist worked on them for a while they become less 'natural'. Here's a list of some popular cures, look at how nautral their sources are:

- infections: Penicillin came originally from mold, or from the bacteria that causes it. Vancomycin, which is much more powerful, came from a similar strain.

- malaria: Quinine, is a drug made from chinchilla bark. Before the drug was developed they used to make tea from the bark itself, which was often unsuccessful.

- polio: no cure, but the vaccine is made from a drug called (i think) formalin, which was developed by combining three strains of the virus in a sheep's kidney and then extracting the animal's antibodies.

- rabies: no cure, but the vaccine, imovax, effectively removes the disease if administered during the incubation period. The drug actually comes from human antibodies extracted from infected cells.

Even the most exotic medical treatments, such as radiotherapy for cancer patients, use materials found in nature. Scientists usually mess with the materials for a while, but this is usually to make them easier to work with and to refine the treatment process.

I often hear people talk about how they prefer herbal alternatives to drugs, not realizing that no matter what you take to treat an illness, it's still a pharmacological agent (i.e. a drug), and often with the same side effects. Take chinchilla bark, for example. When it was used to make tea it used to cause the patients extreme physical discomfort (often much worse than the malaria itself) and frequently they died anyways because the tea form of the drug wasn't that powerful. This 'herbal' remedy was far less effective than the refined Quinine developed by chemists, which even if it cause the horrible side effects, at least the patient ended up cured of malaria, and alive.

The ONLY reason that any potentially helpful drugs are kept from the general public by the authorities is because a) they want to make sure that the drugs really work, and b) they want to make sure that they don't do more harm than good.
 
bgb said:
There's no such thing as a natural cure. ALL treatments for all illnesses come from something in nature, but people seem to think that just because a chemist worked on them for a while they become less 'natural'. Here's a list of some popular cures, look at how nautral their sources are:

- infections: Penicillin came originally from mold, or from the bacteria that causes it. Vancomycin, which is much more powerful, came from a similar strain.

- malaria: Quinine, is a drug made from chinchilla bark. Before the drug was developed they used to make tea from the bark itself, which was often unsuccessful.

- polio: no cure, but the vaccine is made from a drug called (i think) formalin, which was developed by combining three strains of the virus in a sheep's kidney and then extracting the animal's antibodies.

- rabies: no cure, but the vaccine, imovax, effectively removes the disease if administered during the incubation period. The drug actually comes from human antibodies extracted from infected cells.

Even the most exotic medical treatments, such as radiotherapy for cancer patients, use materials found in nature. Scientists usually mess with the materials for a while, but this is usually to make them easier to work with and to refine the treatment process.

I often hear people talk about how they prefer herbal alternatives to drugs, not realizing that no matter what you take to treat an illness, it's still a pharmacological agent (i.e. a drug), and often with the same side effects. Take chinchilla bark, for example. When it was used to make tea it used to cause the patients extreme physical discomfort (often much worse than the malaria itself) and frequently they died anyways because the tea form of the drug wasn't that powerful. This 'herbal' remedy was far less effective than the refined Quinine developed by chemists, which even if it cause the horrible side effects, at least the patient ended up cured of malaria, and alive.

The ONLY reason that any potentially helpful drugs are kept from the general public by the authorities is because a) they want to make sure that the drugs really work, and b) they want to make sure that they don't do more harm than good.

He is appealing to the same group who believes that an alternative to gasoline that cost 10 cents a gallon was invented in the 40's and "Detroit squashed it" or maybe it was the Oil Companies- i forget exactly how it went.

Anyway i checked the reviews of his book over at Amazon and apparently you dont even get these bad cures from his book. The book is just a come on infomercial for his website where you have to pay a membership to get the 'cures' Anyone confirm this?
 
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Nostroke said:
He is appealing to the same group who believes that an alternative to gasoline that cost 10 cents a gallon was invented in the 40's and "Detroit squashed it" or maybe it was the Oil Companies- i forget exactly how it went.

Anyway i checked the reviews of his book over at Amazon and apparently you dont even get these bad cures from his book. The book is just a come on infomercial for his website where you have to pay a membership to get the 'cures' Anyone confirm this?

Not through personal experience, but I read somewhere else that even the web site doesn't have any actual information and is just a way to try to get you to subscribe to the newsletter that is put out. Everything is just a gimmick to get you to pay for the next piece in the hope that you will finally get the information that you want. The newsletter and the web site are the real money makers from what I read because they are automatically renewing subscriptions that are nearly impossible to cancel.

Trudeau is just investing in pool now while he plans something else. If he ever gets any real sponsorship/money behind a tour I wouldn't be surprised if the tour folds because he walked off with all the money or hid it in an offshore account.
 
Nostroke said:
He is appealing to the same group who believes that an alternative to gasoline that cost 10 cents a gallon was invented in the 40's and "Detroit squashed it" or maybe it was the Oil Companies- i forget exactly how it went.

Anyway i checked the reviews of his book over at Amazon and apparently you dont even get these bad cures from his book. The book is just a come on infomercial for his website where you have to pay a membership to get the 'cures' Anyone confirm this?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9006287/
 
Sweet Marissa said:
It's funny that there are no cures for cancer or AIDS, but Grandpa can still bang Grandma.
Hey, till Grandma's happy, nobody's happy.
 
Sweet Marissa said:
It's funny that there are no cures for cancer or AIDS, but Grandpa can still bang Grandma.

I understand the first phrase in your sentence but I don't get the connection with the second phrase. What does Grandpa banging Grandma have to do with cancer and aids? Hopefully, Grandma will like it because she probably can't run very fast. And, who knows, maybe Grandma is really banging Grandpa.
 
Rickw said:
I understand the first phrase in your sentence but I don't get the connection with the second phrase. What does Grandpa banging Grandma have to do with cancer and aids? Hopefully, Grandma will like it because she probably can't run very fast. And, who knows, maybe Grandma is really banging Grandpa.
I'm pointing out that while the creation of drugs to help men get and maintain an erection is abundant, there are still no cures to diseases such as cancer and AIDS.

- How's that cure for cancer, fellas?
- Not yet, but check out the pop-tent in Grandpa's pants!
 
Sweet Marissa said:
I'm pointing out that while the creation of drugs to help men get and maintain an erection is abundant, there are still no cures to diseases such as cancer and AIDS.

- How's that cure for cancer, fellas?
- Not yet, but check out the pop-tent in Grandpa's pants!

Thanks. I just didn't put that together very well. Good point! It must be a lot easier and more profit to put that rise in Grandpa's pants than it is to find a cure for life-threatening diseases. After all, money is the bottom line, unfortunately.
 
bgb said:
The ONLY reason that any potentially helpful drugs are kept from the general public by the authorities is because a) they want to make sure that the drugs really work, and b) they want to make sure that they don't do more harm than good.

You forgot c) a Trillion Dollar pharmaceutical business that doesn't want anyone curing anything and have the "authorities" in their pocket and pushing their drugs ONLY.

Wayne
 
Rickw said:
Thanks. I just didn't put that together very well. Good point! It must be a lot easier and more profit to put that rise in Grandpa's pants than it is to find a cure for life-threatening diseases. After all, money is the bottom line, unfortunately.
wayne said:
You forgot c) a Trillion Dollar pharmaceutical business that doesn't want anyone curing anything and have the "authorities" in their pocket and pushing their drugs ONLY.

Wayne
Exactly!

I tend to communicate through sarcasm.
 
yea, thats good though

Sweet Marissa said:
It's funny that there are no cures for cancer or AIDS, but Grandpa can still bang Grandma.

Who gives a crap if they die topmorrow, if they can't still have sex today. I think a good healthy sex life will cure whatever ails you. If it don't, it was fun trying
 
satman said:
Who gives a crap if they die topmorrow, if they can't still have sex today. I think a good healthy sex life will cure whatever ails you. If it don't, it was fun trying

Most of us pool players like the game so much because we love putting our balls in deep pockets with our di... oops, I mean sticks!! There must be some correlation there ya think?
 
bgb said:
There's no such thing as a natural cure. ALL treatments for all illnesses come from something in nature, but people seem to think that just because a chemist worked on them for a while they become less 'natural'. Here's a list of some popular cures, look at how nautral their sources are:

- infections: Penicillin came originally from mold, or from the bacteria that causes it. Vancomycin, which is much more powerful, came from a similar strain.

- malaria: Quinine, is a drug made from chinchilla bark. Before the drug was developed they used to make tea from the bark itself, which was often unsuccessful.

- polio: no cure, but the vaccine is made from a drug called (i think) formalin, which was developed by combining three strains of the virus in a sheep's kidney and then extracting the animal's antibodies.

- rabies: no cure, but the vaccine, imovax, effectively removes the disease if administered during the incubation period. The drug actually comes from human antibodies extracted from infected cells.

Even the most exotic medical treatments, such as radiotherapy for cancer patients, use materials found in nature. Scientists usually mess with the materials for a while, but this is usually to make them easier to work with and to refine the treatment process.

I often hear people talk about how they prefer herbal alternatives to drugs, not realizing that no matter what you take to treat an illness, it's still a pharmacological agent (i.e. a drug), and often with the same side effects. Take chinchilla bark, for example. When it was used to make tea it used to cause the patients extreme physical discomfort (often much worse than the malaria itself) and frequently they died anyways because the tea form of the drug wasn't that powerful. This 'herbal' remedy was far less effective than the refined Quinine developed by chemists, which even if it cause the horrible side effects, at least the patient ended up cured of malaria, and alive.

The ONLY reason that any potentially helpful drugs are kept from the general public by the authorities is because a) they want to make sure that the drugs really work, and b) they want to make sure that they don't do more harm than good.
Nobody gave these so called "authorities" the authority to do that and they do a terrible job, as the recent resignation of the FDA chief, and the list of drugs recently pulled off the market make plain to anyone following the story. Most top officials at the FDA have been on drug company payrolls for years. Watch CSPAN sometime.

unknownpro
 
Sweet Marissa said:
there are still no cures to diseases such as cancer and AIDS.


SM,
I'm a little puzzled by this statement. There is no such thing as "cancer" (singular). There are thousands of different varieties, MANY of which are curable if found at an appropriate stage, and MANY of which are preventable. While much research remains, there has been great progress in the past 25 years. The cures I am discussing involve surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation therapy - no homeopathic natural cures involved. I think it is very unlikely that all cancers will be curable or preventable in my lifetime; but the progress has been steady.

As far as AIDS goes, we already know what we need to know to prevent it - don't share bodily fluids with someone who could have the disease. I have great sympathy for monogamous people whose unfaithful partners infect them. I have great sympathy for people contracting this disease through blood product transfusion (though this is a very rare occurrence with the improvements in screening). I have much less sympathy for those indiscriminately engaging in high risk behaviors - I think it is clear that our politicians do not believe it is worth a substantial investment to promote this type of behavior; and it is clear that recreational drugs like Viagra and alcohol will continue to be popular.
 
Williebetmore said:
SM,
I'm a little puzzled by this statement. There is no such thing as "cancer" (singular). There are thousands of different varieties, MANY of which are curable if found at an appropriate stage, and MANY of which are preventable. While much research remains, there has been great progress in the past 25 years. The cures I am discussing involve surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation therapy - no homeopathic natural cures involved. I think it is very unlikely that all cancers will be curable or preventable in my lifetime; but the progress has been steady.

As far as AIDS goes, we already know what we need to know to prevent it - don't share bodily fluids with someone who could have the disease. I have great sympathy for monogamous people whose unfaithful partners infect them. I have great sympathy for people contracting this disease through blood product transfusion (though this is a very rare occurrence with the improvements in screening). I have much less sympathy for those indiscriminately engaging in high risk behaviors - I think it is clear that our politicians do not believe it is worth a substantial investment to promote this type of behavior; and it is clear that recreational drugs like Viagra and alcohol will continue to be popular.

Thanks Willie, I'm glad you replied to this...lol. My knee jerk reaction to this was very similar to your post although not as nice or articulate...lol. Thus why I didn't post it.
 
There are definately cures for many types of cancer. If there is none, we wouldn't see Lance Armstrong winning the Tour de France. I have a close relative who has recently been diagnosed with an early form (hopefully) of nasal or throat cancer. Early indications point to a likely recovery because of the advances in modern medicine. However, there's no way any of us will go try one of those so called "natural cancer cures".
 
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