Know the rules at Derby

[briankenobi]

I had been wanting to post this for a while now and I finally have the time to do so. First off, I love Derby City. This year will be my 6th year playing in the 9 ball tourney. I enjoy Derby for a lot of reasons, but mainly because it is the only time I ( an amature) have the possibility of playing against a pro, which I did the first 4 years I played. (Austin Murphy, Landon Schuffet, Danny Harriman, Scott Frost) But my gripe is people not knowing the rules and that includes the pros. Last year Ralf Souquet was trying to "strike a deal" with people that a 9 on the break in the two top corners would be spotted and rack the 2 in the back. The rule was 9 on the break wins and random racking. If I were playing him, I could go for the 2 in the back, but not spot the 9. He made the 9 on the break while playing Karren Corr last year and he spotted it. Busty did the same thing on the table next to him and spotted it becasue he saw Ralf do it. The TD came down and corrected them. Ralf almost argued about it, but the TD said that it was discussed in the players meeting. Which brings up an issue. There are usually 300 plus that play in the 9 ball tourney yet maybe 40 show up to the players meeting. The rules are posted on the site, so people should know them. It isn't that hard. I am by no means bashing Ralf. I love watching him play. That was just the example I used.

One other "gripe" is when people complain about the format. You know the format going in. It is blind draw and there is a chance you may have to play the same person twice, especially if you get to the later rounds. Last year a guy and his wife/girlfriend were whining that he had to play Scott Frost twice in like 3 rounds or something like that. They were like "this is bull**** and it shouldn't be like this." But that is what Derby is. If you don't like the format, either stay home or deal with it.

Now that I got that off my chest, I now return you to your regularly schedule programing.

 

[SLIM]

i too wish that everyone paid attention to the rules & the rules were enforced the same for everyone.

If you ever find any activity or situation where that happens, please let me know.

It will be the first.

Hope to run into you at the derby,

SLIM

 

[satman]

There are a few specific rules, that apply at the DCC, and are fouls elsewhere. Not sure about the 9 ball, but in banks, if the cue ball is real close to the object ball, as long as you jack up 45 degrees, it can pass thru. As for the 9 going in the corners on the break, you will hear that a lot more from the players because of the rack your own format. The 2 ball on the back of the rack also, because it makes it hard to play shape on it.

 

[oneballeddie]

Yes Virginia, it is a random draw

One other "gripe" is when people complain about the format. You know the format going in. It is blind draw and there is a chance you may have to play the same person twice, especially if you get to the later rounds. Last year a guy and his wife/girlfriend were whining that he had to play Scott Frost twice in like 3 rounds or something like that. They were like "this is bull**** and it shouldn't be like this." But that is what Derby is. If you don't like the format, either stay home or deal with it.

Now that I got that off my chest, I now return you to your regularly schedule programing.

We get that comment every year. The probablity there is at least one re-match in the next round is 39%. Here's the math if you want to check it:

P(Match) = 1 – P(noMatch) = 1 – [1-(N/2)/(Nchoose2)]
for large N where N is number of players.

It's one of those non-intuitive things - like how many people do you need in a room before you would bet at least two have the same birthday? (Answer: 23).

As the author of the DCC software I can assure you the draw is random. If it were rigged I promise I would not have drawn Bustamante in Banks twice in last two years!