Laminate shaft split

Biloxi69

Biloxi69

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Hello guys,
I have a Predator laminate shaft that have a single split. You can see it in the pic. I was thinking removing the ferrule either by applying friction or just turning down and make a new one. But to address the split, what do you suggest? Get some Titebond in there somehow? Before I proceed, any recommendations?

Thanks,
Phi
 

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Looks more than a little beat up. What's the current diameter? If it's a fair bit off from the original diameter, you might want to pass and just consider it firewood.
 
It’s actually 11.4 mm. The guy uses it to play 3 cushion carom and ask if I can repair. I told him I’ll see what I can do. Aesthetically I can make it look good. Just the split in the laminate I’m unsure. I think titebond in between the laminate and some rubber band may work.

Phi
 
Pretty common problem years ago with them splitting. I always told people just buy a better shaft. I know how expensive they were but never thought they were worth the effort to repair, especially if the owner wants you to stand behind your work on what I felt was a bad product to begin with.
 
The owner obviously abuses his equipment.

Aren't carom balls heavier than pool balls? In which case carom specific shafts must be built differently.
 
A predator laminate shaft is a poor choice for 3C. The shaft is hollow for 5 inches at the tip end.
Many billiard cues have a conical taper. The joint is thicker and the cue is shorter.
The larger carom balls are 25% heavier. Extreme side spin is often required to distort the cue ball path and manipulate the rebound angle off the rail. To make 5 and 6 rail billiards, the cue ball may need to travel 40 to 50 feet after contact. This requires a powerful stroke.
The thin Predator wall thickness is not going to hold up, especially if it's already been reduced.
I recommend retiring this shaft. It's already compromised. Make him another shaft.

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Biloxi69 said:
It’s actually 11.4 mm. The guy uses it to play 3 cushion carom and ask if I can repair. I told him I’ll see what I can do. Aesthetically I can make it look good. Just the split in the laminate I’m unsure. I think titebond in between the laminate and some rubber band may work.

Phi
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Carom balls are atleast 30% heavier than pool balls. A Z shaft is not designed for such a hard impact. I have seen curious pool players take just a few shots on the carom table with their 314 or Z shaft - instant delamination. I would recommend the player to buy a shaft that's intended for carom. 12mm is a popular tip diameter.
 
Biloxi69 said:
They probably think it’s a better shaft due to its higher cost. I’ll definitely leave it alone.
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If he's a pool player, he might not like how the conical taper feels in his closed bridge. He probably chose his predator it for it's low deflection. Billiard shafts are short, stout and stiff. They are not low deflection. 3C players are always chasing that 'thin hit' with a big stroke at a ball that is 10 feet away.
A torrefied shaft with a modified taper or a stiff CF shaft would be better options for pool players that also play 3C.
 
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