Layered Pig Skin Tips/Sand or Score?

[Island Drive]

Do they need to be scuffed before being applied to the ferrule?
It doesn't feel good to sand it.
Having done hundreds of La Pros and others, often was a coating on em that had to be removed before the glue down.
I've done tips for 30 yrs, but the soft pigskin Mori tips, seem/feel like it would be best to just put clock like shallow razor cuts on the glue side.

My guess it's best to NOT lightly sand the glue side before facing it up.

 

[3kushn]

Not saying I'm right but I've always sanded b4 gluing.

Been a really long time since I've scored a tip.
Frankly, I forgot all about that technique.

 

[Burnett Custom Cues]

Sand them flat, no need to score anything.

 

[Zerksies]

I sand the bottom of every tip besides the Kamui clear, Which i am told explicitly not to sand the bottom

 

[boogieman]

I sand the bottom of every tip besides the Kamui clear, Which i am told explicitly not to sand the bottom

I sand the bottom of Kamui clear because they are not flat. They say not to sand them but they are also supposed to be flat. Just enough to knock the high spot off with high grit paper. Basically once the tip is matte instead of shiny they are ok. YMMV.

 

[Sheldon]

Always sand to check for flatness. Especially if you're using CA glue. Scoring is also a bad idea when using CA.

 

[tg_vegas]

I always sand them on a machined surface. It often surprises me how much you have to remove to get the entire bottom flat.

I also score mine as well. Always have. Never lost a tip. Granted, I may not have lost any even if I didn't score them but I like the practice.

We tend to score tenons to provide grip for glue, why would a tip be different?

 

[Zerksies]

I sand the bottom of Kamui clear because they are not flat. They say not to sand them but they are also supposed to be flat. Just enough to knock the high spot off with high grit paper. Basically once the tip is matte instead of shiny they are ok. YMMV.

That's why you are supposed to check for flatness before you install.

 

[Island Drive]

I always sand them on a machined surface. It often surprises me how much you have to remove to get the entire bottom flat.

I also score mine as well. Always have. Never lost a tip. Granted, I may not have lost any even if I didn't score them but I like the practice.

We tend to score tenons to provide grip for glue, why would a tip be different?

Guys appreciate your input & ideas.
It's just when I sand the Mori, it's so porus, soft, almost fluffy after the flattening.
I have not had any of them come off tho.
Should I sand it down nearly one layer to get to a less fluffy/soft area, Or?
Have any of you posters installed many of these Mori's?

 

[tg_vegas]

No way you should have to sand that much off. If you get getting "soft, almost fluffy", it sounds like 1) you are taking too much off; and 2) you are using too coarse sandpaper. I use 220 on a hard, flat surface. All you need to do is enough to get a uniform surface. I then blow it with compressed air to remove any dust, give it a quick wipe with alcohol, lightly score it 4-6 times, and install.

If you are having real issues, some folks put a layer of CA on the tip, ensuring full coverage, and let it dry. Then sand that surface. This seals the tip and prevents the final glue bond from absorbing so much into the tip.

Just my two cents.

 

[Island Drive]

I sanded very little each time, with very fine grit. It got soft ''instantly''. Quick alcohol wipe recommendation/thanks and the scoring I've done. I think the alcohol touch is a good idea to remove the fine/dust.
thx
bm

 

[claymont]

I sanded very little each time, with very fine grit. It got soft ''instantly''. Quick alcohol wipe recommendation/thanks and the scoring I've done. I think the alcohol touch is a good idea to remove the fine/dust.
thx
bm

Do you ever "prime" the bottom of the tip with CA before using it? I've never had one come off since I started doing that. Apply CA to the bottom and let it dry; I use a hair dryer to speed things up. Lightly sand, wipe clean and glue it on

 

[Island Drive]

What is CA?

I sanded very little each time, with very fine grit. It got soft ''instantly''. Quick alcohol wipe recommendation/thanks and the scoring I've done. I think the alcohol touch is a good idea to remove the fine/dust.
thx
bm

 

[claymont]

What is CA?

I sanded very little each time, with very fine grit. It got soft ''instantly''. Quick alcohol wipe recommendation/thanks and the scoring I've done. I think the alcohol touch is a good idea to remove the fine/dust.
thx
bm

ca glue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanoacrylate

 

[garczar]

What is CA?

I sanded very little each time, with very fine grit. It got soft ''instantly''. Quick alcohol wipe recommendation/thanks and the scoring I've done. I think the alcohol touch is a good idea to remove the fine/dust.
thx
bm

Super glue in all its versions. My tip guy uses SuperglueGel. never had a tip come off. ever.

 

[Island Drive]

Me too.