Layered tip care
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i did a search and didnt find my answer:embarrassed2:
can you use a "shaper " on them???
if not whats the best way to take care of a layered tip??
They should never need shaping. I tell my customers to never in life touch a shaper or scuffer to a layered tip. If the tip surface should happen to glaze just use a tip pick held at an angle and just lightly peck around the outer perimeter, never pecking on the center as it needs no chalk.
Dick
Dick, I'm certain you know more about tips than I do, but I occasionally use a Willard shaper very gently on my Moori soft tip. Just a trace of debris comes off. I've been using the same tip for over a year and haven't had any hardening, mushrooming or glazing over. There's still quite a bit of tip left. I just recently bought a Forever Tool and really like it.
Do you say not to use a shaper because of wear? I would assume the tip flattens slightly after much use and would not have a perfect dime diameter. By the way, I have a tip pick but do not use it because I don't like it. I'm not a cue maker but read this part of the forum just for education.
Do you say not to use a shaper because of wear? I would assume the tip flattens slightly after much use and would not have a perfect dime diameter. By the way, I have a tip pick but do not use it because I don't like it. I'm not a cue maker but read this part of the forum just for education.
Almost the only thing that wears a tip out is roughing it. A layered tip has layers of soft leather. The tip itself gains it's hardness from these soft layers being pressed when the tip is made. A layered tip that is not worn out from being sanded and scuffed should last years, meaning 3 to 5 years. A pick or a tapper removes no material. Every time a scuffer is used you loose 2 or 3 months of tip. A good layered tip shouldn't become flat unless you never use any juice. A tip actually shapes itself by the way a player uses it IMO. Why don't you like a tip pick may I ask?
Dick
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And that's just the beginning of the list of things that get confused.
For myself I do not like using tip picks on layered tips. I find that most people use them too aggressively and believe that all you are doing is putting holes in the glue that binds a layered tip together. Following Dicks' recommendation of "lightly pecking at the edge" the key word is "lightly". To fix my tip from time to time I simply take some 120 sandpaper, cup it in my palm and rub across the tip while turning the shaft against the paper. It takes maybe 2 turns of your hand to cover the whole tip and is more than enough to return the tip to playing condition. As stated before, the layered tip should last a long time.
Bob Danielson
www.bdcuesandcomix.com
Bob Danielson
www.bdcuesandcomix.com
The reason I don't like a tip pick is because I can't see a visual difference in the tip after working it over. With a Willard or LastForever tool, I can see a "new surface" on the tip. Just my preference. I use those tools very gently on the tip so that wear is minimal. My Moori tip is over a year old now and shows very little wear.
sethjames303
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I'm with those the use sand paper. I've replaced a tip on those that use a standard tip like a LePro with a layered tip, just to have them come back and tell me there is something wrong with the tip. I found out later that the person used a tik prik and was push just to hard. When using a piece of sandpaper (120 or 150 grit) and just ligthly brushing the tip is a much better way to remove the "glaze"