League 8 Ball (APA)

Best advice: Quit the APA.

A league that sticks you with playing people who cannot hold a cue correctly, or who cannot run more than 2 balls in an inning, and who have to play an entire match of pocket-blocking lameness till past 2am is not helpful to your game.

If you enjoy that kind of torture, more power to you.
 
Secondly, tie up 2-3 of their balls early on and then start shooting their ducks in for them. Yes, you will foul and give up ball in hand but sooner or later they will be forced to break a ball out and realize you or anyone on your team can play the same b.s. game if you want too. It will pretty much come down to playing one good safe at the end or a nice break shot.

This was my first thought when reading the thread. Put some of their junk in for them, and leave them nothing to work with.
 
Best advice: Quit the APA.

A league that sticks you with playing people who cannot hold a cue correctly, or who cannot run more than 2 balls in an inning, and who have to play an entire match of pocket-blocking lameness till past 2am is not helpful to your game.

If you enjoy that kind of torture, more power to you.

I thought this was funny since GC posted at 2:15AM.
 
Wow! Thanks for all the responses and Great advice! I am looking forward to putting it to the table. I can't wait to see the look on their faces when I lock up one of their OBs, then if I have to, start shooting their blockes in!!!
This fourm is like having coaches from all across the country. WooHoo!
Thanks again
 
That tactic is really just a form of a trap. You cannot lose unless you make yourself lose by falling for the trap.


I've seen it before. People go on and shoot all their ducks and balls that have available pockets, then get stuck by the blockers. During that process, the weaker player was cinching a ball here and there getting most of their balls off the table. What they are counting on is an end game situation, where they have 2-3 balls left, with 2 of them in front of pockets - and the remainder of yours blocked by those balls. So that in the last inning, they can shoot ducks and try and win the rack. Makes sense for them. They can't beat you any other way. So they have to slow you down and drag you out several innings, and get themselves close enough to try and take a shot at finishing the rack.


People who play fundamentally bad 8-ball, and who have no understanding of the basic laws or strategy of 8-ball are highly likely to get burned badly by such a trap. Most players, particularly the majority of APA SL5's and SL6's are dumb and cannot get it through their thick heads that it's not always a good idea to get up to the table and begin making every ball you can in 8-ball.


Perhaps the ultimate worst habit in all of 8-ball, the most fatal flaw to have, is to insist on shooting all the easy balls first, all the ducks and open shots - and leave the blocked or clustered balls last. In other words, starting a run - where no run exists or that the player didn't have a realistic chance of completing. Worst possible habit to have in that game.


That's why this lame trap works so well in the APA. There's plenty of suckers. Don't be that sucker. All it does is encourage these teams to continue doing this. It's ugly and it's really an aberration of the game. It's not how the game is suppose to be, or how it's suppose to look or play. That's why I said, better to quit the APA and not have to deal with people who need to do that incessantly, because they have no chance to beat you any other way.


If you played a much stronger player, would you want to do the same to them? No, you wouldn't. They would be running tables on you, and in turn - you should try to do the same, or play a good safe. Make an effort to win the game the proper way. Only that way can your game develop. These APA players don't develop because they are stuck doing stupid things like that for years. They don't like taking chances or being aggressive. You have to fail at first before you can succeed. Too many in the APA are scared to attempt an out. Even if it is a 3-4 balls. It's pathetic. I used to see safeties being played in situations where there's no need to play a safety. That is a total lack of confidence.


Pocket blocking is part of the game even at a higher level -- but it shouldn't be a player's sole strategy for trying to be competitive with another player who is much more skilled. If that's the case, then that's the wrong environment to be in. Play better players.
 
Of course, since the OP asked for help with a situation he was having in his APA league. bolo ocho's advice is to quit. Typical.

Perhaps he enjoys APA, other than against these specific teams? Perhaps it is his best/only option. Oh yeah, I forgot, as bolo ocho so kindly pointed out, most APA players are dumb, so we obviously must look to him for guidance.

Sheesh.
 
If people didn't associate sandbagging and APA together as much as they do, it might not receive as bad as of a rep.

Which, of course, is a far worse crime to the pool gods than hiding your true speed in order to hustle someone gambling..... I get it.
 
8 Ball is always about table advantage...from the break onward, someone has the advantage right up until the 8 ball drops. The art is knowing who has the advantage, figuring out how to get the advantage and keeping it until you're out. That can be running out in one inning or bunting around through 5 innings. It's amazing how many players waste ball in hand opportunities or go for a run that isn't really there when just sitting that inning out with a good safety or tying balls up is the smart play that keeps the table advantage and gets you out first in the long run.
 
Which, of course, is a far worse crime to the pool gods than hiding your true speed in order to hustle someone gambling..... I get it.

Or living off of your girlfriend, or sleeping on a couch, or pawning off sponsor equipment, or dumping in a pro event.

Heaven forbid you just want to do something to have fun and maybe get to a good speed at it.
 
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