Its a league, get over it! I'll play all of you crybabies some, bring your cash! Just let me know when and where.
Jason<------mentally handicapped for even responding to this nonsense.
League Play Ethics and Feelings - Thoughts...
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Its a league, get over it! I'll play all of you crybabies some, bring your cash! Just let me know when and where.
Jason<------mentally handicapped for even responding to this nonsense.
I played tourneys (non-handicapped bar weekly tourneys) and a couple of sessions of APA with someone who was physically handicapped and mentally very sharp.
I saw a lot of people play down to him, not come into their matches with a desire to win, wanting to give him opportunities, etc..
I didn't. I had fun, I made sure he had fun, but I never came in with any less than my best game. I never lost a game to him, but there were times he got close to winning and he was extremely (and rightfully) proud of those times.
Losing on purpose may give you the warm and fuzzies, but any player who has mental capacities will know they were being pandered to.
I respect people enough to give them my best effort.
I saw a lot of people play down to him, not come into their matches with a desire to win, wanting to give him opportunities, etc..
I didn't. I had fun, I made sure he had fun, but I never came in with any less than my best game. I never lost a game to him, but there were times he got close to winning and he was extremely (and rightfully) proud of those times.
Losing on purpose may give you the warm and fuzzies, but any player who has mental capacities will know they were being pandered to.
I respect people enough to give them my best effort.
straightdraw65
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Why be confrontational?
They enjoy their league and what goes with it.....you do not and that's okay too.
Pool seems to be the only game where someone is always challenging someone with "bring your cash....I'll play all of you". And that has nothing to do with the original point of discussion.
Just my opinion. (I don't mean to be confrontational either.)
straightdraw65
Banned
That's good thinking. :thumbup:
Touchy situation, but it reminds me of the vids where a kid makes a basket after the other team doesn't try or even helps the kid make the basket. Usually, those games have already been decided. So, I would let him/her play normally during league and then in championships only play him/her when the result doesn't matter. That might mean that they won't play much during the tournament. I'm not sure how much understanding the player has of such nuances. Let the other teams decide how they respond when playing the player. As far as others that are concerned about appearances of sandbagging, I wouldn't sweat it.
The post had to do with all these heros getting all upset about people letting this handicapped guy win. Again, its just league, so who cares? Its all these world champions talking about sandbagging etc that pisses me off. If they are that serious about something that doesnt matter at all, you gotta wonder if they're not the mentally handicapped ones. Which brings me to the point of bring your cash and you can make some money if thats what you're so worried about. This isn't aimed at you.
Jason
Edit: by all means play your hardest against everybody, but in this case, of you wanna let the other guy win, go ahead, it won't change your life but it may bring a lot of happiness to this guy.
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Hi, Kettle, Pot was looking for you.
Grow up......
^^ In general yes, but remember the context, this is "APA", not the "Olympics"
There is no need to teach a handicapped person "a lesson"...
The only lesson I see here is one of human compassion, :clapping:
Hats off to the team that lets this guy join their team :bow-down::bow-down: , they are not asking other teams to lay down, the other teams are doing it on their own.....
Sure, then I can be a hypocrite like you, getting pissed off about what people write on a forum while berating people for taking leagues too seriously.
I'm sure it's the height of maturity to offer to play for money over every petty difference. That is right up there with saying that my dad can beat up your dad.
Thank you. And also start coaching him!
I'm with you and against "participation trophies".
But, you talk like it's about life and death. Which it is not.
You should play for fun, the experience and the learning.
If it's just about competition and winning then you might check if you still have a heart where it should be.
I've downplayed a few times, because I knew that something will be destroyed when I at this exact moment crush my opponent (later it might even be OK).
I then simply resort to playing the most ridiculous shots or with extreme english (to practise) - which means I will automatically miss.
We both get something out of this approach.
Being kind is wonderful.
Cheers,
M
Well theyre complaining about sandbagging and money so im giving them a chance to make some - cause im a nice guy
Now that is funny.
When I play an individual who I don't think plays as well as I do (and I'm being very general with that description)... I generally do one thing... 8-ball as an example, I take the harder set on the table, work on shots I have trouble with, try and break balls out, etc...
But I'm not good enough to 'back off' then bring it the next match so I try and challenge myself and if they win, they've earned it.
My $0.02
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But I'm not good enough to 'back off' then bring it the next match so I try and challenge myself and if they win, they've earned it.
My $0.02
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Lol.
If you read in one of my other posts I said play as hard as you can in league or whatever, take it as serious as you want. This is something entirely different though.
Have a great weekend
Jason<-----not mad, disappointed in people maybe
The only league I play in is non-handicapped and we play our best at all times.
I always tell my opponents to 'have fun', as that is my main goal.
Anytime I find out that I made the evening less enjoyable for my opponent for doing anything other than winning, I am disappointed.
Best
PppSn
Well superman, people that play down to a player don't only affect that match or team. They also affect all the other teams in the division.
To you, being you are clearly such a professional and high level money player, leagues may not mean anything, but to others it is all they have or are willing to do competitively. Which clearly does not meet your godly pool standards, but I am pretty sure there is not one person on this forum that gives a crap what you think.
I played a session or 2 of masters and it was fun, league IS fun, I think you are missing the point here - it's 1 guy who has been dealt a shitty hand in life.
The difference is that we can change our situation a lot easier than this guy can.
League is not the end of the world and it isnt gonna affect anybodys rating whatsoever! If you wanna beat the guy into the ground, go ahead - I don't care either way.
Somehow, I think most of you complaining would do the same thing and at least take it easy on him.
Jason<----still has a little faith in humanity.
Btw, I don't play that often - work gets in the way
i have a younger brother Alex that is mentally handicapped, I have lived through a 1000 of these scenarios with every sport or game Alex could ever get his hands on... Watched him on the playground at school as well etc etc. Fact is, mentally handicapped children have a much more complicated social world to negotiate each day than you or I could ever imagine. It's based on the fact that most people don't really have a close relationship to them like that, and have nothing to associate it with. Essentially making a situation for the handicapped person where they are trying to (with less tools) learn to socially navigate the world, while at the same time, they get responses to them from total strangers that are all over the map.. much less consistent than how people treat you and me. Makes for a confusing world.
So..
My take on the op's topic.
Right about everything except that it's not a lose lose situation.
If you are championship or bust, this is probably not the team for you. If you draw more value out of the comraderie from meeting up to play with the team every week, get more value out of seeing this handicapped person smile than you do collecting cash at end of tourney, than this is probably the team for you.
As for the people that dump for my lil bro.. it's ok, we can handle being eliminated in the first round, he will remember that game of pool for YEARS and it will make him feel like he belongs in a way you can't imagine. Those people... I could kiss em.
So..
My take on the op's topic.
Right about everything except that it's not a lose lose situation.
If you are championship or bust, this is probably not the team for you. If you draw more value out of the comraderie from meeting up to play with the team every week, get more value out of seeing this handicapped person smile than you do collecting cash at end of tourney, than this is probably the team for you.
As for the people that dump for my lil bro.. it's ok, we can handle being eliminated in the first round, he will remember that game of pool for YEARS and it will make him feel like he belongs in a way you can't imagine. Those people... I could kiss em.