Leather wrap being too thick?

timothysoong

timothysoong

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Hello,

I was wondering what do u guys do to when the wrap is slightly thicker than 0.025"(let's say 0.030")?

Do u hand sand the top and bottom after cutting it out from the template or u sand the handle with the lathe?

If you do sand the leather with hand, how do u sand it? I'm not really into ways of sanding the handle because that'd mess up the cue for the next wrap change.

Thanks
Tim


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You could cut the wrap groove deeper. Thats certainly easier than trimming the wrap thickness.
 
Kim Bye said:
You could cut the wrap groove deeper. Thats certainly easier than trimming the wrap thickness.
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Cutting the groove deeper is a bad idea for a long run. If I were to change wrap and I found a suitable wrap with the perfect .025" thickness, then it's be slightly too deep for the wrap.

I was wondering if anyone knows a way to sand the wrap evenly. Because when I sand with a 100-120 grit sandpaper i cant manage to sand it evenly..


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timothysoong said:
Cutting the groove deeper is a bad idea for a long run. If I were to change wrap and I found a suitable wrap with the perfect .025" thickness, then it's be slightly too deep for the wrap.

I was wondering if anyone knows a way to sand the wrap evenly. Because when I sand with a 100-120 grit sandpaper i cant manage to sand it evenly..


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Sure, thats a potential future problem. How about puuting the wrap on backward on a piece of wood or delrin and sanding it on the late? Cut a groove in the wood or delrin stock and tuck the ends of the wrap in there, almost like a ring billet, but with only one grove.
 
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Timothy,
How often are you going to change out the wrap on that cue? Once every 3-5 years? Even so, it is not difficult to build the wrap groove back up 5 thousands for a thinner wrap.
My 2 cents,
Gary
 
best choice-buy a new wrap
2nd choice-turn or sand down handle. When it needs replacement, find another .030 leather piece or add 5 thousandths to the handle. easy to do.
 
Sanding the ends of the leather may seem like the best choice to get a blank to fit. But that leaves the rest of the blank larger and can cause your cue to roll funny on the table, especially if using lizard or gator type of wrap. Sanding the handle is the best option if your blank is too thick. You can always build the wrap groove up a little later by various methods if you change the blank at a later time.

If you have regular textured or smooth leather and still want to sand the ends of the blank. Use a sanding block to do it and sand from the center toward the ends. Leave your blank about a 1/4" longer than needed so you can cut off the fuzzy ends you create with the sanding block.
 
GBCues said:
Timothy,

How often are you going to change out the wrap on that cue? Once every 3-5 years? Even so, it is not difficult to build the wrap groove back up 5 thousands for a thinner wrap.

My 2 cents,

Gary
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It's not my cue, the customer chose not to have his groove/handle sand.

Just wondering, what's a good way of building the groove up?

cueman said:
Sanding the ends of the leather may seem like the best choice to get a blank to fit. But that leaves the rest of the blank larger and can cause your cue to roll funny on the table, especially if using lizard or gator type of wrap. Sanding the handle is the best option if your blank is too thick. You can always build the wrap groove up a little later by various methods if you change the blank at a later time.

If you have regular textured or smooth leather and still want to sand the ends of the blank. Use a sanding block to do it and sand from the center toward the ends. Leave your blank about a 1/4" longer than needed so you can cut off the fuzzy ends you create with the sanding block.
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Thanks, I'mma try your method of sanding the leather. Never thought of leaving more, cause I always sand after I cut it with my template which leaves a lot of fuzzy ends.


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cueman said:
Sanding the ends of the leather may seem like the best choice to get a blank to fit. But that leaves the rest of the blank larger and can cause your cue to roll funny on the table, especially if using lizard or gator type of wrap. Sanding the handle is the best option if your blank is too thick. You can always build the wrap groove up a little later by various methods if you change the blank at a later time.

If you have regular textured or smooth leather and still want to sand the ends of the blank. Use a sanding block to do it and sand from the center toward the ends. Leave your blank about a 1/4" longer than needed so you can cut off the fuzzy ends you create with the sanding block.
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i have not personally done this, but i know joe baker jbcustomecues, has on occasion,
doubletaped leather onto a board and ran thru his drum sander .

i suppose he taped down the leading edge too
that could get ugly if the drum grabbed the front edge going in
 
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BHQ said:
i have not personally done this, but i know joe baker jbcustomecues, has on occasion,
doubletaped leather onto a board and ran thru his drum sander .

i suppose he taped down the leading edge too
that could get ugly if the drum grabbed the front edge going in
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I originally bought my drum sander thinking it would work for that purpose. I soon found out I was going to have to cut all my blanks a couple of inches longer so I could hold the ends down on a fixture, sand and then cut off the ends. It quickly became impractical and the results were so so.
 
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If it's manta ray skin, it's going to be tough hide. Even on the back. You may get spots that go through. I'm going on the assumption that it may be because I saw that you just got some. It is also very heavy due to the calcium layer on the outer side of the skin. Lots of people have tried using it and were not happy with the way it changes the balance of the cue. But - it is damn near bulletproof when done. Good luck.
 
Shouldn't .005 just press down? We're literally talking about a hair too thick on either side.
 
shakes said:
Shouldn't .005 just press down? We're literally talking about a hair too thick on either side.
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I have used a ball bearing mounted on my tool post for years for that purpose. But .005" is still a lot to press down.
 
Sand the handle .005 quick and easy. Pressing down can be a nightmare :)

Mario
 
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