Lee Van Corteza vs Neils Feijen 9 pm match

Underneath its Niels his thoughts on this match from his diary on www.nielsfeijen.nl

Just done with the accu-stats table match vs Lee van Corteza. Tough loss 8-11. Had to wait in the chair over 30min for speeches from Barry, Scott and Steve Lilles. Then it was finally game time 40min later then planned. Lee broke and ran the first. I missed a long 1 after his push out 0-2. I ran the next but scratched on the break 1-3. 9 on the break 1-4, break and run 1-5 He scratched on the break, I made 2-5 but came dry on the break 2-6. He won the next two for 2-8. I started making a run from there, got a break together a little and made it 7-8! Played a safe in the next but Lee kicked the 1 in and ran out for 7-9. I won the next 8-9, broke dry and no more shot. He ran and broke and ran 8-11. Feel sick but fought hard from far behind. Gotta play at 15:00 tomorrow
 
Loontjens said:
Underneath its Niels his thoughts on this match from his diary on www.nielsfeijen.nl

Just done with the accu-stats table match vs Lee van Corteza. Tough loss 8-11. Had to wait in the chair over 30min for speeches from Barry, Scott and Steve Lilles. Then it was finally game time 40min later then planned. Lee broke and ran the first. I missed a long 1 after his push out 0-2. I ran the next but scratched on the break 1-3. 9 on the break 1-4, break and run 1-5 He scratched on the break, I made 2-5 but came dry on the break 2-6. He won the next two for 2-8. I started making a run from there, got a break together a little and made it 7-8! Played a safe in the next but Lee kicked the 1 in and ran out for 7-9. I won the next 8-9, broke dry and no more shot. He ran and broke and ran 8-11. Feel sick but fought hard from far behind. Gotta play at 15:00 tomorrow
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I guess he forgot to mention his complaint regarding Lee's break !
 
To Niels' benefit, the soft-break is not usually banned in tournaments...in this one it is...so mentioning about it to the referee is perfectly in line with the rules of the tournament....I don't know why it should be seen as 'poor sport'...you could just as easily say that it's 'poor sport' to use soft break when it is specifically forbidden...

just my 0.02?

cheers,
Kimmo
 
Kimmo said:
To Niels' benefit, the soft-break is not usually banned in tournaments...in this one it is...so mentioning about it to the referee is perfectly in line with the rules of the tournament....I don't know why it should be seen as 'poor sport'...you could just as easily say that it's 'poor sport' to use soft break when it is specifically forbidden...

just my 0.02?

cheers,
Kimmo
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OK ! what I'm saying is that it is quite an irony that a former practitioner of the soft break is the one who is now complaining about it. as to his complaints, Neils complained when he was already down bigtime and Lee kept pummeling him. Neils could have mentioned it during Lee's first try. I believe Neils said that inorder to get a chance back on the table and distract Lee's momentum and gameplan. Neils is correct regarding the rules, but he had also something else on it as well.
 
I don't know who is NOT former practitioner of soft break...we've all tried it at some point or another I am sure...does that make us 'practitioners'? I dare to say that the 'standard break' from Niels is on the heavy side.

As far as softbreak in a tournament where it is not allowed...If someone did it against me.....first time...let it slide....second time...hang on a minute..after a few times I wouldn't take it. If the situation is putting you in an unfair situation (the other person dropping balls on ever break with illegal break whereas you do the legal break and keep scratching or getting dry breaks), wouldn't you do something? What is the right time do it? Go run to the referee immediately after the first break? The second? Third? Talk to the opponent first?
I think you're just painting a bad guy somewhere where there really isn't one.
So of course he had something on it? But by your logic it's impossible to say anything about a soft break because you can't see it until you're already down some racks...so be default you're bad sport?
 
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Kimmo said:
I don't know who is NOT former practitioner of soft break...we've all tried it at some point or another I am sure...does that make us 'practitioners'? I dare to say that the 'standard break' from Niels is on the heavy side.

As far as softbreak in a tournament where it is not allowed...If someone did it against me.....first time...let it slide....second time...hang on a minute..after a few times I wouldn't take it. If the situation is putting you in an unfair situation (the other person dropping balls on ever break with illegal break whereas you do the legal break and keep scratching or getting dry breaks), wouldn't you do something? What is the right time do it? Go run to the referee immediately after the first break? The second? Third? Talk to the opponent first?
I think you're just painting a bad guy somewhere where there really isn't one.
So of course he had something on it? But by your logic it's impossible to say anything about a soft break because you can't see it until you're already down some racks...so be default you're bad sport?
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Yes, if someone was really into the rules in the first place, he should have mentioned it upon the first try and and not let it pass a couple of more times. it's in the rules, right?
 
so he gave him leeway about the rules...and perhaps some of the first ones were borderline (I don't know, I haven't seen the game)? I still don't see any 'bad sport' about it...I'd say it's 'good sport' to let him break for a while to see if he's not doing it intentionally and once that becomes obvious it's intentional, then say to the referee...in effect you've given something in front already then to the opponent.
What should he have done then?
 
since he tolerated it til the midway of the match, he could have atleast let it go. was Neils being generous? I dont think so. but it's obvious that it has affected his psyche when he was getting massacred. in anycase, I believe Neils wouldn't complain about it if Lee wasn't making a ball on the break or if Neils was the one way ahead. no room for concern as they would say it.
so that's it, Neils lost. just hope that he wins all his matches in the losers side.
 
Oh I agree completely with the other stuff...Neils lost to someone who played better. It's just the comment about being 'bad sport' for playing by the rules that i don't understand.
 
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