Light & Wattage
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mattman said:
i see it now, its sort of out of the picture. i also, per the other thread, just put a mirror up on my wall.
DCP
DrCue'sProtege said:
How about one of these?
http://www.ozonebilliards.com/wrirpotalita.html
I have a similar one over my eight footer with the spiral "150 Watt" flourescent bulbs. My wife found it at some designer outlet for a song. I'm pretty happy with it, but you'll want to experiment with the height above the table. That will depend on the spread of the three sockets. Our room is definitely decorated in the more elegant style rather than the gameroom style and this light looks very nice.
Tom
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I agree with everyone here that the original pics you had are a bad choice. Light output, lumens, wattage, whatever, from a small point source would be a poor choice, due to the shaded spots that would be cast by every ball that isn't directly below the fixture. Brighter light output would worsen this situation, due to the bigger difference between the lighted areas and those that are shadowed; and I'm figuring this would also be the issue with darker shades of cloth.
Here are my suggestions:
Go for the biggest (lamp count and length) surface mount flourecent fixture that the room/area (not the table) will allow for, aesthetically. The decorativeness
s) of the fixture is open to your tastes, and there are enough being manufactured that something will look good; as long as you are willing to to shop around and do some research.
That's my permanent light suggestion. I'm assuming that the light will be centered over the table, which would put the light out in the middle of a rather large living area. Unless this area could be used by someone else in the future as a dinning area, those fixtures you chose wouldn't look right come time you do rent it out. Those lights are typically used as a decorative task light, specificaly for a dinning table or foyer area; but of course this my opinion, albeit a professional one.
Now, if you are willing to change fixtures latter on, but aren't liking the idea of having to do some drywall patching covering up the hooks that would be needed swagging alot the of traditional pool lights out there, there are a couple of options.
One, you can find larger lighting bases that will allow you to swag the ends of the fixture from the base itself. This way, the entire fixure would be supported by the same two screws that would hold up any fixture you use (weight might be an issue here, and might necessitate the need for a fan-approved light box with 10/32 screws.) These bases will be a longer oval shape, and will have the hooks on the ends for the chain. The dissadvantege here would be that you might not find this base in a pool fixture you would like to use, but a lighting supply house might be able to supply one without having to purchase an entire fixture.
Two, and this would be an easier and cheaper option, would be to go ahead and mount up some swag hooks in the ceiling, making sure that the hooks are close enough to the light box/junction box that you could cover up the holes in the future with a ceiling madallion. This option will limit you in the future as to the type of fixture you can use. It will have to have a 4" (give or take) canopy/base and allows the fixture itself to stand off the ceiling, like a chain type fixture. If you can see how the medallion works, you can understand what I am saying with the fixture you will be able to use. Of course if you plan on replacing the "pool" light with a fixture with a large enough base that it would interfere with a medallion, it could possibly be big enough to cover the holes in the ceiling by itself if you mount the swag hooks close enough together.
I apologize if this sounds like rambling, I should have went to bed a good whila ago.
Whatever you choose to do, I hope it works out for you.
Dan
Here are my suggestions:
Go for the biggest (lamp count and length) surface mount flourecent fixture that the room/area (not the table) will allow for, aesthetically. The decorativeness
s) of the fixture is open to your tastes, and there are enough being manufactured that something will look good; as long as you are willing to to shop around and do some research.That's my permanent light suggestion. I'm assuming that the light will be centered over the table, which would put the light out in the middle of a rather large living area. Unless this area could be used by someone else in the future as a dinning area, those fixtures you chose wouldn't look right come time you do rent it out. Those lights are typically used as a decorative task light, specificaly for a dinning table or foyer area; but of course this my opinion, albeit a professional one.
Now, if you are willing to change fixtures latter on, but aren't liking the idea of having to do some drywall patching covering up the hooks that would be needed swagging alot the of traditional pool lights out there, there are a couple of options.
One, you can find larger lighting bases that will allow you to swag the ends of the fixture from the base itself. This way, the entire fixure would be supported by the same two screws that would hold up any fixture you use (weight might be an issue here, and might necessitate the need for a fan-approved light box with 10/32 screws.) These bases will be a longer oval shape, and will have the hooks on the ends for the chain. The dissadvantege here would be that you might not find this base in a pool fixture you would like to use, but a lighting supply house might be able to supply one without having to purchase an entire fixture.
Two, and this would be an easier and cheaper option, would be to go ahead and mount up some swag hooks in the ceiling, making sure that the hooks are close enough to the light box/junction box that you could cover up the holes in the future with a ceiling madallion. This option will limit you in the future as to the type of fixture you can use. It will have to have a 4" (give or take) canopy/base and allows the fixture itself to stand off the ceiling, like a chain type fixture. If you can see how the medallion works, you can understand what I am saying with the fixture you will be able to use. Of course if you plan on replacing the "pool" light with a fixture with a large enough base that it would interfere with a medallion, it could possibly be big enough to cover the holes in the ceiling by itself if you mount the swag hooks close enough together.
I apologize if this sounds like rambling, I should have went to bed a good whila ago.
Whatever you choose to do, I hope it works out for you.Dan
here's a better link to the type of light i am considering. five lights at 100 watts.
DCP
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...03+90401+500192&marketID=401&locStoreNum=8125
DCP
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...03+90401+500192&marketID=401&locStoreNum=8125
i think all the light in the center like that might lead to shadows and/or you getting light glaring in your eyes when youre down on a shot.
Great
I think this light is perfect! I think it could even light up a 12' snooker table! You should buy two of these lights for even more light! Wow what a great find! I can't believe how similar it looks to all the other lights that people told you would not work! Way to ignore them and get exactly what you want! Keep it up DCP!
I think this light is perfect! I think it could even light up a 12' snooker table! You should buy two of these lights for even more light! Wow what a great find! I can't believe how similar it looks to all the other lights that people told you would not work! Way to ignore them and get exactly what you want! Keep it up DCP!
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txplshrk said:
im not sure, but i think youve irked him ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this is the light i've decided to go with. i know its not what most recommended, but again, for the 3rd time, i CANNOT put a regular pool light in this place.
and i saw how much light this produced last night, and was really amazed at how bright it made the room. i am certain it will be fine for my purposes.
DCP
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=79187-76221-LP2208P&lpage=none
and i saw how much light this produced last night, and was really amazed at how bright it made the room. i am certain it will be fine for my purposes.
DCP
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=79187-76221-LP2208P&lpage=none
I hope they work out for you. I hope that you got more than one. I just can't see one of them shedding enough light on a 9ft table. Two.....maybe and three would be ideal. It may give off a lot of light from the source, but you have to remember that you will probably have balls casting shadows.
Honestly, I can't understand not putting up a regular pool light and just patching holes in the future....if need be, but hey....to each his own. Give us a full report after you get all finished.
Honestly, I can't understand not putting up a regular pool light and just patching holes in the future....if need be, but hey....to each his own. Give us a full report after you get all finished.
mattman said:
well, i was wondering the same thing Matt. but the place i saw this in, the lady had it in her kitchen, and i was surprised at how much light it produced. the whole kitchen pretty much lit up. i checked, and sure enough, the bulbs were only 60 watts.
thing about it was, this was hung pretty high, close to the ceiling. perhaps that accounts for the way the whole room seemingly was lit, since being up higher gave the light a chance to spread out.
i have shadows on my balls now with the flourescent lights i have over them now. i dont think that will be a problem.
DCP