local tournaments,who is always there.

buck15

going broke! got there!
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i have a question.out of all of the players that read this forumn,i would like an opinion on this. i'am sure most every poolroom these days has a weekly tournament.open to everyone.some rooms even have a handicapped.i have noticed a trend and i was wondering if it's true every where.in all of these tournaments there is usually 2-4 guys that are always at the top.another 4-8 that are right below them.all this when we have tournaments from 30 to 60 people.i have seen this in my room and thru weekly coverage ,in a magazine,in other pool rooms.why do you think that is?the same guys placing ,besides the obvious.also this can be a judgement of how your game is coming.keep track of how your finishes average and if they improve.not just on the good nights,but every night.ya can't throw out the "my mind wasn't there nights ,or the he got lucky nights.if you trat every match with the thought of keeping your average up or improving,it may keep the mind on track.so....do the same guys or girls finish in about the same order in your room?post it,i'am curios.
 
No money.

In all the tourneys here in Dallas, it is just about the same four or five people winning every week. All the other players are strung out behind them and that varies week to week. All the champions are broke, so they depend on the tourns for money. Everyone else just hopes to get lucky and snag a third or fourth. Some of the places have started saying that if you win you cant play for a week or two, to try and level the field
 
yeah thats the way it is here, but our tournaments aren't all that big so its expected.
 
The better players play better than the rest so they usually win.

Kennedy has been winning his tournaments for a long time. Mainly because he is better than the competition.

I don't think there is anyone around here who actually practices - they just play in leagues or tournaments. So they are doomed to stay at their level of incompetence forever. Sorta like the Peter Principle.

Jake
 
When you have people like Mike Davis and Jerry Slivka playing every week it's easy to see why the same people are winning every week.
 
The same small group of folks winning every week isn't anything unusual. Most folks, if they're improving at all, are improving slowly. It usually takes someone new, a good shot, coming in out of nowhere to shake things up, or for someone in the pack to really start trying to improve his game and start moving up the line.
 
I started out not doing very well in local tournaments. I'd go two and out a lot.

Then I practiced the things I was not good at for several years. I made a list of all the shots I had trouble with and practiced these everyday.

Then after a couple of years I got to where I would finish just out of the money usually.

Then I started working on cue ball position - leaving the cue ball in a good spot for my next shot. There is a *lot* to learn about this - book learning and asking questions here.

Now I can easily finish in the money usually if I want to. The problem is as you said, there are always a few of us who always finish in the top. And we are the players who can leave the cue ball where we want most of the time (8-ball tournaments). The other players can't do this, so there is a wide gap between the playing ability of those who can easily finish in the money and those who can't. So we try to "spread the cheer" a bit and don't try very hard when attendance drops.

When other players get in the money sometimes, this encourages them to play in the tournament again.

Note there are other tournaments further away where only very good players show up. Everybody can leave the cue ball where they want and you see a lot of break and runs or table runs. I don't do so good in these tournaments and would prefer to only play in these, but they are far away and with the price of gas, I'm staying closer to home.

Also note there are other players who have been playing in the local tournaments just as long as I have. They were not doing very well several years ago. They don't practice shots they are not good at, will not ask for advice, and will not listen to advice. They are still playing at the same level today.

I think the best advice I ever got was "Learn all you can" and "Practice what you are not good at - the shots which are frustrating to you".
 
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