Makabenta's BSCP Introduction

sputnik

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There is hardly nothing new with Makabenta's introduction of BSCP.

This is what we want to know:

1] Who put "Bona Fide" Makabenta, Baranda, Chua, et al into BSCP? Does BSCP have a set of legitimate and legal By-Laws and Constitution registered under the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)?

As far legal documents say, it is BILLIARDS AND SNOOKERS ASSN. INC., co-founded by Edgar Acaba, that is being misrepresented with the name BILLIARDS & SNOOKER CONGRESS OF THE PHILIPPINES. And, if by any legal document, one can relate BSCP with BSAI as one legal entity, the BY-Laws and Constitution of BSAI have grossly been igored since 1987 -- from memberships, to annual elections.

2] Is "Raya Sports" registered under the SEC or under the Department of Trade and Industries? It is important for us to know because BSCP has taken the liberty to partner with this seemingly bogus entity as it cannot be found in both SEC nor DTI search engines.

Furthermore, is there any legal and unbiased opinion that is available (aside from the personal argument) that there is no conflict of interest in being Chairman of a National Sport Association (that uses government funds) and at the same time being President of the so-called "Raya Sports" in a declared accredited partnership?

The defense in this conflict of interest always ends with the claim that "BSCP being a private corporation". Why does it not ever continue with BSCP being a private corporation and an accredited NSA using government funds? Your defense is a half-truth, and half-truths are tantamount to lying.

3] Is the other BSCP affiliate, Philippine Billiard Development Foundation registered under the SEC? Again, the search engines of SEC do not say so. Where does this affiliation come in? Is this a fall-back organization in case your infraction-riddled BSCP gets expelled as an NSA?

4] The eight directors had been listed. Where is the list of members that you claim are by the millions?

Makabenta says that BSCP has the millions of pool fans in the Philippines under it. Is this a claim that the fans of Efren, Alex, Django, Ronnie, Dennis, Lee Van, etc are actually BSCP fans and NOT of these superstars'? This unquantifiable claim that are made again shows how frantic BSCP is in wanting credibility despite its legal existence.

5] About Makabenta's claim of "loving our sport and nurturing it for the enjoyment of players and fans alike", how much has he actually helped the players as Chairman of BSCP? Let's go to the basic unit of the claimed constituents - the player - Has Makabenta ever spent even for one player plane fare? Has he accompanied or assisted any player to get travel visas or licenses? Has he even referred any player to a doctor for medical assistance?

The mere fact that all the players left BSCP is very telling on how Makabenta nurtures and loves the sport because if he was fair and true to his BSCP job, his Raya job wouldn't have difficulty in masquerading true colors.

We welcome any proof of help that Makabenta had extended to any Filipino player.

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If Makabenta will only show us that there is no cause for mentioning the above with facts and scanned documentation, BSCP's credibility problems will be solved because without these basic credentials, BSCP is nothing.

Never mind the P10 Million; the Alex Pagulayan case; the fact that you took a bus in Germany and forgot all about your youth country representative (minor Revo David); the disrespect that World Champion Alcano took in your Qualifiers; the fact that your players go around pool halls trying to cash your post-dated checks... to name a few.

By the way, his qualification as chief speech writer to two Philippine presidents is, in my opinion, the most relevant information that your introduction had lent us. It explains many things about a Makabenta-led BSCP. It is a fact that the Philippines is in the list among the top corrupt countries in the world. We would, for the love of the sport, want to spare billiards -- where all the Filipino stars are loved world-wide (including Alex whom you banned) -- from such reputation.

Yen Makabenta and Raya Sports could really achieve a noble dream of creating a world championship owned by a Filipino. But not in ways where others will have to be wronged to be able to achieve it. Please leave BSCP out of it!

If you cannot understand why the likes of Efren "Bata" Reyes have left you because the reality of it hinders your dreams, please do not protect your dreams by insulting the superstars (who are are apparently loved by everyone except your group) by suggesting that they are stupid enough to be "used" by BMPAP. Number one, they are not stupid. Number two, they, in fact are the BMPAP.
 
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Whooooaaaa there Sputnik....

This is a deep piece of info you just dropped in here - I'll read through it at length in a minute, but can you explain it in English to us first ?

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Ste said:
Whooooaaaa there Sputnik....

This is a deep piece of info you just dropped in here - I'll read through it at length in a minute, but can you explain it in English to us first ?

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This thread is a reaction to AZ's article for the week by Yen Makabenta. This feature in AZ's homepage is the reaction of Yen Makabenta to establish credibility in recent exposure (at different Internet sites) of what BSCP really is.

Instead of his usual explanations with the big words that he uses over and over again, everybody will be very contented (and probably be silenced) with documents that are Philippine public property anyways. What has gone around in the local pool circle is the SEC papers (By-Laws and Constitution) of BSAI. We do not have papers of "Billiard and Snooker Congress of the Philippines" (BSCP), "Raya Sports" and Philippine Development Billiards Foundation" (PDBF) because they are nowhere to be found in the SEC nor the DTI internet search sites.

It is that simple. Prove legal existence to back up the millions of dollars that stakeholders put into those names.
 
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yen states:

"...we (bscp) put philippines pool in the international map..."

this guy can't really tell the truth,,it's just pack of lies after lies...

he also states that: he ws the previous speechwriter for the past 2 phil. presidents;

he thinks that is something to be proud of...phil. president's speech are pack of lies..everyone knows that..

that is why this guy is so corrupt and such a liar because of his background and training and who he's been hanging out with..

the bottomline is the pro players knows the facts and knows how corrupt his ways are..and they don't have anything to do with him(bscp & raya)

they also deceptively got credentials from wpa ...they are not legitimate / legal entity in the phil. being not registered with SEC...
 
This is what we want to know:

1] Who put "Bona Fide" Makabenta, Baranda, Chua, et al into BSCP? Does BSCP have a set of legitimate and legal By-Laws and Constitution registered under the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)?

As far legal documents say, it is BILLIARDS AND SNOOKERS ASSN. INC., co-founded by Edgar Acaba, that is being misrepresented with the name BILLIARDS & SNOOKER CONGRESS OF THE PHILIPPINES. And, if by any legal document, one can relate BSCP with BSAI as one legal entity, the BY-Laws and Constitution of BSAI have grossly been igored since 1987 -- from memberships, to annual elections.

2] Is "Raya Sports" registered under the SEC or under the Department of Trade and Industries? It is important for us to know because BSCP has taken the liberty to partner with this seemingly bogus entity as it cannot be found in both SEC nor DTI search engines.

Furthermore, is there any legal and unbiased opinion that is available (aside from the personal argument) that there is no conflict of interest in being Chairman of a National Sport Association (that uses government funds) and at the same time being President of the so-called "Raya Sports" in a declared accredited partnership?

The defense in this conflict of interest always ends with the claim that "BSCP being a private corporation". Why does it not ever continue with BSCP being a private corporation and an accredited NSA using government funds? Your defense is a half-truth, and half-truths are tantamount to lying.

3] Is the other BSCP affiliate, Philippine Billiard Development Foundation registered under the SEC? Again, the search engines of SEC do not say so. Where does this affiliation come in? Is this a fall-back organization in case your infraction-riddled BSCP gets expelled as an NSA?

4] The eight directors had been listed. Where is the list of members that you claim are by the millions?

Makabenta says that BSCP has the millions of pool fans in the Philippines under it. Is this a claim that the fans of Efren, Alex, Django, Ronnie, Dennis, Lee Van, etc are actually BSCP fans and NOT of these superstars'? This unquantifiable claim that are made again shows how frantic BSCP is in wanting credibility despite its legal existence.

5] About Makabenta's claim of "loving our sport and nurturing it for the enjoyment of players and fans alike", how much has he actually helped the players as Chairman of BSCP? Let's go to the basic unit of the claimed constituents - the player - Has Makabenta ever spent even for one player plane fare? Has he accompanied or assisted any player to get travel visas or licenses? Has he even referred any player to a doctor for medical assistance?

The mere fact that all the players left BSCP is very telling on how Makabenta nurtures and loves the sport because if he was fair and true to his BSCP job, his Raya job wouldn't have difficulty in masquerading true colors.

We welcome any proof of help that Makabenta had extended to any Filipino player.

===========================

If Makabenta will only show us that there is no cause for mentioning the above with facts and scanned documentation, BSCP's credibility problems will be solved because without these basic credentials, BSCP is nothing.

Never mind the P10 Million; the Alex Pagulayan case; the fact that you took a bus in Germany and forgot all about your youth country representative (minor Revo David); the disrespect that World Champion Alcano took in your Qualifiers; the fact that your players go around pool halls trying to cash your post-dated checks... to name a few.

By the way, his qualification as chief speech writer to two Philippine presidents is, in my opinion, the most relevant information that your introduction had lent us. It explains many things about a Makabenta-led BSCP. It is a fact that the Philippines is in the list among the top corrupt countries in the world. We would, for the love of the sport, want to spare billiards -- where all the Filipino stars are loved world-wide (including Alex whom you banned) -- from such reputation.

Yen Makabenta and Raya Sports could really achieve a noble dream of creating a world championship owned by a Filipino. But not in ways where others will have to be wronged to be able to achieve it. Please leave BSCP out of it!

If you cannot understand why the likes of Efren "Bata" Reyes have left you because the reality of it hinders your dreams, please do not protect your dreams by insulting the superstars (who are are apparently loved by everyone except your group) by suggesting that they are stupid enough to be "used" by BMPAP. Number one, they are not stupid. Number two, they, in fact are the BMPAP.
 
If you cannot understand why the likes of Efren "Bata" Reyes have left you because the reality of it hinders your dreams, please do not protect your dreams by insulting the superstars (who are are apparently loved by everyone except your group) by suggesting that they are stupid enough to be "used" by BMPAP. Number one, they are not stupid. Number two, they, in fact are the BMPAP.

BMPAP Director Alex Pagulayan just won the Guinness 9Ball Tour Singapore leg playing the finals against another BMPAP member Dennis Orcollo (who won the Qatar International 9-Ball Championship). Wasn't this tournament where Yen, Ernie and Sebastian Chua banned Alex from. You're going to get your pics pasted in all the forums. Pics of you all while getting fingerprinted and mug shot. Hopefully all the newspapers and networks will be represented at this fingerprinting event. You will be, as you wanted, worldwide stars even for a day! Hiding under the BSCP (or is it the BSAI since the Philippines didn't grant you the right to use BSCP?) skirt isn't always beneficial isn't it? LOL!!!!
 
bandido said:
If you cannot understand why the likes of Efren "Bata" Reyes have left you because the reality of it hinders your dreams, please do not protect your dreams by insulting the superstars (who are are apparently loved by everyone except your group) by suggesting that they are stupid enough to be "used" by BMPAP. Number one, they are not stupid. Number two, they, in fact are the BMPAP.

BMPAP Director Alex Pagulayan just won the Guinness 9Ball Tour Singapore leg playing the finals against another BMPAP member Dennis Orcollo (who won the Qatar International 9-Ball Championship). Wasn't this tournament where Yen, Ernie and Sebastian Chua banned Alex from. You're going to get your pics pasted in all the forums. Pics of you all while getting fingerprinted and mug shot. Hopefully all the newspapers and networks will be represented at this fingerprinting event. You will be, as you wanted, worldwide stars even for a day! Hiding under the BSCP (or is it the BSAI since the Philippines didn't grant you the right to use BSCP?) skirt isn't always beneficial isn't it? LOL!!!!

why cant you wait until your complaints are proved before ridiculing?? and why must you be ridiculing? do you think it makes you look better?

just shut up with all this nonsense and wait for things to be concluded before spitting out garbage.

theres no sense in what you're doing.
 
bandido said:
If you cannot understand why the likes of Efren "Bata" Reyes have left you because the reality of it hinders your dreams, please do not protect your dreams by insulting the superstars (who are are apparently loved by everyone except your group) by suggesting that they are stupid enough to be "used" by BMPAP. Number one, they are not stupid. Number two, they, in fact are the BMPAP.

BMPAP Director Alex Pagulayan just won the Guinness 9Ball Tour Singapore leg playing the finals against another BMPAP member Dennis Orcollo (who won the Qatar International 9-Ball Championship). Wasn't this tournament where Yen, Ernie and Sebastian Chua banned Alex from. You're going to get your pics pasted in all the forums. Pics of you all while getting fingerprinted and mug shot. Hopefully all the newspapers and networks will be represented at this fingerprinting event. You will be, as you wanted, worldwide stars even for a day! Hiding under the BSCP (or is it the BSAI since the Philippines didn't grant you the right to use BSCP?) skirt isn't always beneficial isn't it? LOL!!!!

i know,,,i was skimming thru yen's new lies propaganda on AZB frontpage(AZB keeps on buying their lies under the banner of free and equal press time)),,it's all lies like saying they put phil. pool on international map...that cannot be further from the truth..

being a presidential speechwriter,,yen probobly believes or hallucinating he's just writing speech for a prez. full of lies...

then he goes on to undermine and denegrade the pro players like reyes...

why would AZB allow these lies to be posted here??? it won't take a second to know it's all lies...

then he said they are registered with the SEC...wow...where are they getting all these???

yen and cohorts must be on something .....

continue the fight...and don't give an inch to these vultures....

pro players and managers made phil. pool what it is today and let it stay that way at all cost.... demise to yen and cohorts.... :angry:
 
thomba02 said:
why cant you wait until your complaints are proved before ridiculing?? and why must you be ridiculing? do you think it makes you look better?

just shut up with all this nonsense and wait for things to be concluded before spitting out garbage.

theres no sense in what you're doing.


thomba..maybe you don't know the facts..if you do- you won't be acting like this..unless you're part of these vultures...

yen and cohorts deserves more than ridicules even at this point...

what they have done to the pro players like alex and ronnie just to mention those is "unforgivable"--- they should be ousted in the phil. pool scene..

why do you think the pillars of pool in the phil. are opposing yen and cohorts with all their might??? ...now figure that(i can care less what the corrupt justice system in the phil. says..) the verdict is out... unless you wanna be stupid..or corrupt like yen and cohorts :mad:
 
i'm just saying that IF they are what you say they are, then you guys are not doing anything but making yourself look worse by talking smack.

if your claims are true, then wait for the outcome before spewing out garbage.
 
thomba02 said:
i'm just saying that IF they are what you say they are, then you guys are not doing anything but making yourself look worse by talking smack.

if your claims are true, then wait for the outcome before spewing out garbage.

my friend i can see you're not part of them...

we are not spewing garbage,,i for one am just somebody who loved the pure pool and have no ax to grind here,,,

what you see are indignation of people who loves pool with all our hearts and knows what is stake here,,,

if yen and cohorts take over the phil. pool -- it will be the beginning of unprecedented corruptions...

yen and cohorts deserved more than these "garbage" you hear from us...

these people are so evil,,,you have to hear what the players in the phil. are saying to yen and cohorts.....

i can say all these..i'm just a pool fan and loves this game...i don't have vested or ulterior motives in saying what i'm saying...i understand what you are saying though..tou are refering to ER,,,yes in a way i agree,,,but they have to voice out their "stuff" too...
 
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thomba02 said:
why cant you wait until your complaints are proved before ridiculing?? and why must you be ridiculing? do you think it makes you look better?

just shut up with all this nonsense and wait for things to be concluded before spitting out garbage.

theres no sense in what you're doing.

You can have that opinion and its respected but you declare such opinion basing from this issue's effect on you. I do so based on its effect on me. I was personally attacked by this group so I can react as I please. Look better, Idon't care. Feel better, heck yeah!

So, do you still feel that it's right for you to tell me to "shut up"?
 
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BMPAP announced its formation in a press conference last February 2008. Since then BMPAP player members have entered, won or finished high in WPA sanctioned tournaments like the World 8 Ball Championship in Fujairah, the World Pool Masters, the Predator 10-Ball, the Qatar International 9-Ball Championship and the Guinness 9-Ball Tour. Just goes to show how much of a paper tiger this BSCP/RAYA partnership is and how worthless their fancily written articles are.

They still can't produce an event, without the BMPAP Players, that concluded successfully. They even had to have school children skip class with a promise of Yum Burgers to just fill up their stands for the opening day of their PPT Puerto Princesa. They still haven't announced nor posted in their website their W10BC Partners and sponsors even though all other details are filled-in.

In short, the BMPAP can just ignore their, BSCP/RAYA's, existance but will it be right to let RAYA keep using strong arm tactics against the players while using BSCP powers due to BSCP's affiliation with the APBU which is the Continental Member of the WPA?
 
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