Master vs. Triangle Chalk
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GADawg said:
I don't think so. If you have a good chalk, you can use more english without miscueing. I've noticed different kind of action, playing with different kind of chalk. And ofcourse it's always better using a chalk which you can trust. Most of the peoples don't look at there tip after chalking (they look at the table). So you want a chalk which would chalk well. I used Triangle on my playing, and always take my time to chalk my tip. The Master chalk sticks better on the tip.
Are we talking about the "old" Blue Diamond chalk or the "new" Blue Diamond chalk? The old BD chalk in the goldish white paper was the best chalk ever. It hasn't been made for over 20 years now. The new BD chalk in the black paper is Master Chalk. I found that one out from the local Brunswick dealer. Same with the Blue Diamond tips. They are elks that are pressed a little longer to make them harder. Brunswick and Tweeten have a close partnership on their tips and chalk.kersje said:
I think you misinterpreted what Tweeten said. I've talked with Skip Nemecek on this issue ad nauseum, because everytime I see someone say they called Tweeten, I call Skip and ask again to make sure I've got the right information. Triangle and Masters are different. They might have the same ingredients, but that where the similarities end.manwon said:
Apart from that, all Masters chalk is made the same, except the small amount of dye, as you said. Skip thinks the additional dye is so miniscule that it can't have any real affect. In my field (injection molded plastics), even the smallest amount of dye makes a difference because it is a chemical added to other chemical.
To the discussion on the previous thread about MSDS sheets and lead in chalk, there used to be lead in some of the pigments that Tweeten used. That was an issue across the board with every market that used certain pigments. But, Tweeten switched over to lead-free dyes as everyone else did. And this only affected a couple of colors, blue not being one of them, IIRC.
Fred
I would say that the new Blue Diamond chalk cannot be Master Chalk.Shawn Armstrong said:
And, it might be easy to just say that Blue Diamond tips are Elkmasters that are pressed a little longer, but that's a little misleading. That's like saying that a hard-boiled egg is a soft-boiled egg cooked a little longer. The difference in process is why they're different, and not the same.
Fred
Trust me, it's the same. Bricks are identical, with the exception of the wrapper. EXACT same colour and texture. And, the box it comes in says "Made in the USA". Brunswick only makes tables. Their cues, tips and chalk are contracted to outside houses. Cues are by Joss, tips and chalk by Tweeten.Cornerman said:
They're elks. If you press a LePro in a vice for 30 minutes, it's still a LePro. That's like saying playing with a tip for 2 days changes it's composition. My Triangle tip is still a Triangle after I press it before I install it. Same exact process as to how the two tips are made. They just leave one set in the press a teensy bit longer. I have a friend in the industry that used to work for Brunswick. He's the one I got the info from.Cornerman said:
I'm one of the few people that's taken an in depth tour of the tip manufacturing at Tweetens, since I'm not competition and I did an article on tips. As a manufacturing engineer, I'lll leave it as I said: it's simply misleading.Shawn Armstrong said:
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i have a small box of grey masters. i bought it thinking like what's been said here - the colour makes no difference. yet i can't seem to get any of the chalk to go on my tip! it's useless! never had any problems with the standard blue though, it's the best chalk i've ever tried.
Green and grey Master chalk are the grossest things I've ever played with. It looks like you've caked make-up onto your cue tip after you've chalked with it. I find the best chalk has a gritty feel to it. You need that silica base in the chalk in order for it to stick to the tip and spin the cueball. Blue Master, for me, is the nuts. After that, I like Silver Cup or National Tournament. Triangle becomes useless a third of the way down the brick.worriedbeef said:
I've used blue Masters before, it chalked on very well. My tan Masters chalk seems to have a different consistency.....maybe it's just me. I do have some Silver Cup tan chalk and let me tell you...it is not good at all. Very hard and granulated. Masters just sticks better.
I am going to try the Triangle chalk today. If I don't like it, then I will order some Masters. Thanks for all your help!
I am going to try the Triangle chalk today. If I don't like it, then I will order some Masters. Thanks for all your help!