McCready vs Stalev - banks - where?

ZigZag Master

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There was a video floating around with McCready vs Stalev playing banks.

Does anyone have the details of this....what city, what poolroom, how much per rack, who came out ahead?

Thanks
 
ZigZag, I didn't reply previously because I didn't think the match between Evgeny and Keith was recorded when they played long-rack banks. It occurred 3 years ago at a Joss Tournament in Chelmsford, Massachusetts. When the semi-finals were in progress in one area of the pool room, Larry Lisciotti challenged "The Russian," as I fondly used to call him, to a game of one-pocket and got beat.

At that time, Evgeny was new to the United States, and he had a huge entourage of fellow Russians with him. Nobody knew his speed, and he was sure a force to be reckoned with. He told me at that time that he was the Russian champion for 5 years in a row, and I think he was only 22 years of age, if memory serves me correctly.

Keith and Larry were good friends, and so after Evgeny beat Larry, Keith decided to proposition The Russian to a game of long-rack banks EVEN. It was late in the evening, but the crowd gathered 'round their table as Evgeny and Keith battled back and forth, with Keith winning two sets.

On his first trip to the States, Evgeny traveled cross-country to Vegas and California. When he wasn't on the opposite side of the table from me and mine, I was always pulling for him. He said a person in his hometown in Russia could live off $5,000 for a whole year, and it was his goal to bring home the bacon.

I think Fred Agnir wrote a story about Evgeny playing Bobby Pickle in Las Vegas which is a good read.

To the best of my knowledge, the match between Keith and Evgeny playing long-rack banks at Chelmsford, MA was not recorded.

JAM
 
JAM said:
ZigZag, I didn't reply previously because I didn't think the match between Evgeny and Keith was recorded when they played long-rack banks. It occurred 3 years ago at a Joss Tournament in Chelmsford, Massachusetts. When the semi-finals were in progress in one area of the pool room, Larry Lisciotti challenged "The Russian," as I fondly used to call him, to a game of one-pocket and got beat.

At that time, Evgeny was new to the United States, and he had a huge entourage of fellow Russians with him. Nobody knew his speed, and he was sure a force to be reckoned with. He told me at that time that he was the Russian champion for 5 years in a row, and I think he was only 22 years of age, if memory serves me correctly.

Keith and Larry were good friends, and so after Evgeny beat Larry, Keith decided to proposition The Russian to a game of long-rack banks EVEN. It was late in the evening, but the crowd gathered 'round their table as Evgeny and Keith battled back and forth, with Keith winning two sets.

On his first trip to the States, Evgeny traveled cross-country to Vegas and California. When he wasn't on the opposite side of the table from me and mine, I was always pulling for him. He said a person in his hometown in Russia could live off $5,000 for a whole year, and it was his goal to bring home the bacon.

I think Fred Agnir wrote a story about Evgeny playing Bobby Pickle in Las Vegas which is a good read.

To the best of my knowledge, the match between Keith and Evgeny playing long-rack banks at Chelmsford, MA was not recorded.

JAM


Evgeny Stalev stayed down here in Miami for a few weeks, fun to watch...very creative but made bad games the whole time he was here <maybe it was the guy steering him, lack of vodka, I dunno>. He played in one of my 1-pocket events and matched up with a one pocket player, the "Monster" took the Russians $$$!!!
 
With Keith and Stalev, they were playing on that table that was all by itself on the other side of the glass and booths in the small room right? Away from the majority of the tables?

If i'm not mistaken, I remember that there was some table that was being broadcast to the tv's they had hanging, although i don't know which table that was. It could have been one of the ones used in the tournament, or the one that they were playing banks on. I'm not sure, but i could swear i saw pool on the TVs. I could also be imagining it, as it's been way to long.

i'm kind of leaning towards them having another match on the TVs but not the gambling.

But if they did play on the camera table, then i'm sure they could have taped it. Question is, was it on that table, and was it taped.

SUPERSTAR
 
SUPERSTAR said:
With Keith and Stalev, they were playing on that table that was all by itself on the other side of the glass and booths in the small room right? Away from the majority of the tables?....

SUPERSTAR, I remember that table, in front of the bar and alongside the semi-finals/finals area. :)

That is the table that Larry Lisciotti and Evgeny played the one-pocket set, with Larry getting beat. Before the match began, the barking back and forth between Larry and Evgeny was funny. I think they were playing even, if I recall.

That was a really cool tournament, and the pool room in Chelmsford was set up really sweet. The room which housed the majority of the tables up front is where the match took place between Keith and The Russian. Watching Keith and Evgeny size each other up, expressing their opinions on what was a "fair" game (even though neither of them knew how the other one played), with Lisciotti chiming in intermittently, I'd have to say there were about 50-plus people standing close by, hanging onto every word out of their mouths, including me. :p

Myself being a little green on the tournament trail at that time, I wasn't aware of the fact that Keith had played in Chelmsford previously accompanied by Dennis Hatch. I never did find out what mischief the two of them may have gotten into (not sure I want to know either), but I do remember the look in the owner's eyes as he was welcoming Keith to Chelmsford. Diana Hoppe [Poolpics by Hoppe] was doing her thing, and there was another lady professional photographer from Canada in attendance, both snapping pictures left and right. Some of the photos may be in the AzBilliards Picture Gallery. :o

Evgeny and Keith stalled for a while. When Keith would suggest a game, the Russian would walk away and discuss it with his entourage. He didn't speak English very well, but he understood money and kept baiting Keith by waving his bankroll in the air, and Keith's nostrils were wide open. ;)

They ended up agreeing on the long-rack banks, even. As the crowd moved towards the designated table, I remember feeling a little wee bit uncomfy when I noticed Evgeny's Russian buddies grinning, rubbing their palms together in unison. :(

It wasn't an easy win for Keith. The first set took the longest. He had already been knocked out of the tournament, and he was, shall I say, feeling no pain, thanks to Anheuser-Busch. :rolleyes:

Folks were side-betting, Keith was barking every time he got to the table, and Evgeny would squeal every time he made a good shot, yucking it up in Russian with his crew. I do remember Earl Strickland had just finished playing his match in the other room, and when he was getting ready to exit the building, he spotted the action, decided to check it out, and parked himself on a stool in the back, unnoticed. :cool:

Keith caught a gear and made some unreal bank shots. When he heard Earl call out his name "Eeeeeether," it seemed to give him the fuel to take it to the next level. The Russian was a gentleman gambler and made good on the money, which I promptly tucked away for safe-keeping. It was getting late, and I was looking forward to getting out of there "with the cheese," but as you might guess, Keith agreed to play Evgeny once more, same stakes, same game. :mad:

This set didn't take long at all. With confidence and playing on Evgeny's dough, Keith crused on ahead rapidly. The Russian finally unscrewed his stick, but wanted a rematch at a later date. There's a little more to the story -- the caliber of play was topnotch -- but that's a pretty good summary of that match-up. :)

JAM
 

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I saw Stalev's video on the Russian website posted a couple weeks ago, this guy can play. Kind of unorthodox with his stroke and especially his power break.
 
SplicedPoints said:
I saw Stalev's video on the Russian website posted a couple weeks ago, this guy can play. Kind of unorthodox with his stroke and especially his power break.

Does he still hop up after he cracks the rack and land with one knee on top of the the corner pocket? :D

BTW, he breaks the balls good, but his cue-ball flies off the table more often than than not with that one-knee break.

JAM
 
I saw part 1 ...Liscotti play "Boris" as he called him in Chelmsford...It was funny as all hell of course Larry was brutal to Stalev woofin, sharking any which way..The kids demeaner never changed as serious as a heart attack...The showman of pool are a dying breed....Found out later Keith beat the Russian...
 
I saw Stalev play Pickle, he played like a robot with all of Pickles antics he never lost his composure the only thing he said all night was "rack balls".
 
I remeber watching Stalev playing Amar Kang at the Cue Club in Las Vegas a few years back. Stalev was giving Amar the 8 playing 9 ball. I think they were beting like 1500 a set. Not to sure of the out come though.
 
Country club has the ability to record pool tables from almost anywhere in the room. Upstairs or downstairs.
 
Thursday Morning Quiz!

Michael Webb said:
Country club has the ability to record pool tables from almost anywhere in the room. Upstairs or downstairs.

I had forgotten about that downstairs bar at Country Club. That is one nice pool room.

I had no idea that they had recording capabilities within the facility. The quality of the video must be dependent on the placement of the camera (IMO). And what about the audio?

There was another instance when The Russian and Keith matched up, but it was at Classic Billiards in Rochester. I'm not sure if that was recorded by a railbird.

A year or so ago, I bought a video from an auction on eBay which was recorded at Classic Billiards in Rochester, NY [recorded by a spectator] of Keith and Earl Strickland in the finals of a Joss tournament. You can't hear the audio very well, but the videographer did zoom in and out at times.

Earl is always relaxed when he's playing Keith, smiling and woofing a little. I think he actually has a good time when he's in the pit with Keith. I'm not sure if that's because he's 100-percent confident he's going to beat Keith or if it's because they're just friends and at ease with each other. :p

Here's a little Thursday morning quiz!

Looking at this group shot of the 12 semi-finalists, taken by Diana Hoppe, to the far left is Rick the manager, and to the far right is Jackie the owner. In the middle are 12 semi-finalists players at a 2003 Joss tourney held at Classic Billiards in Rochester, NY. NAME THAT PLAYER!

http://www.azbilliards.com/gallery/showpicture.cfm?eventnum=33&photographernum=1&picnum=1571

Start with the bottom row. Player No. 1 is Keith. Can you name the remaining 11?

JAM [procrastinating the beginning of my workday :D ]
 
Hey JAM,

I'll give it a try starting from Keith....on the table Alex P. and Charlie Williams...L to R....Phil Sherman, ?, ?, Raphael S., Santos, ?, Mike Z., Earl S., and Stalev (sp?).
 
JAM, Do you have a link to the article about The Russian and Bobby Pickel that you mentoned?
 
Keith M., Alex P., Charlie W.....behind them, Rich Warren, Phil Sherman, Danny Hewitt, Mark Ford, Raphael S., Santos S., Ian Costello, Mike Zuglan, Earl Strickland, Evgeny Stalev, Jackie V.

I win!

SUPERSTAR
 
br8knrun52 said:
Hey JAM,

I'll give it a try starting from Keith....on the table Alex P. and Charlie Williams...L to R....Phil Sherman, ?, ?, Raphael S., Santos, ?, Mike Z., Earl S., and Stalev (sp?).

Very good, Br8knrun52! :) You got eight of them correct. The bottom row is
1. Keith McCready
2. Alex Pagulayan
3. Charlie Williams

Here's some hints in red for the remaining three. The top row is:
4. Phil Sherman
5. Canadian champion who beat Jim Rempe in the finals in Atlantic City.
6. They call him the "Donut Man" in Baltimore, Maryland
7. Raphael S.
8. Santos
9. Young Gun who moved to California from New England and never came back
10. Mike Zuglan
11. Earl Strickland
12. Evgeny Stalev

JAM
 
SUPERSTAR said:
Keith M., Alex P., Charlie W.....behind them, Rich Warren, Phil Sherman, Danny Hewitt, Mark Ford, Raphael S., Santos S., Ian Costello, Mike Zuglan, Earl Strickland, Evgeny Stalev, Jackie V.

I win!

SUPERSTAR

Yes, you do win, SUPERSTAR. You beat me to the punch with my hints in red! ;)

JAM
 
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