Mcworter or Owens

Ascue said:
Every cue is prolly overpriced unless you make cues. I'll say this, when you buy a gilbert, barnhart, pierce, runde, you won't need a cf shaft for it. Their base maple shafts are splended.
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Well, Carbon Fiber, like the Whyte Carbon for example, is a game changer, and no maple shaft is going to perform like those shafts. I don't care who made it, or how many growth rings the shaft has. It is not going to perform like a high quality CF shaft.
 
vintagecollectibles831 said:
Well, Carbon Fiber, like the Whyte Carbon for example, is a game changer, and no maple shaft is going to perform like those shafts. I don't care who made it, or how many growth rings the shaft has. It is not going to perform like a high quality CF shaft.
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It's all opinion . I have both
 
Ascue said:
It's all opinion . I have both
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No way. It is not even opinion. It is fact. No other shafts have the low deflection, and control, and power that CF shafts offer. Shafts like the Whyte Carbon, and the Mezz Ignite, to name a few examples. The powerful English, and control that you can get from those shafts are like no standard or any Maple shaft, for that matter.

This is coming from a Naysayer that never even wanted to try a CF shaft out. The Whyte Carbon was a game changer for me though. One of the 1st CF shafts I ever tried, because a friend loned one to me, during a tournament, because I had no cue at the time.
 
skor said:
good
play with just the CF for 6 months and then go back to wood and see if it's still play better.
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I would say, 30 minutes, lol.

Personally, it only took me maybe 10 minutes with the Whyte Carbon, to know that I never wanted to go back to Maple shafts ever again.

And, the Whyte Carbon is by far the best CF shaft I have ever tried out, and I can't imagine any other being better. Though, there are many that I have not tried out, like the Mezz Ignite for example.

Anyways, very sorry for going off topic.

And lol, it is crazy to believe, but of all cue makers, Mike Lambros came out with a Carbon Fiber shaft, which I was shocked to learn. That is like SW coming out with a CF shaft, in my opinion, which I am sure, surely would never happen, lol.
 
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You may need a regular shaft for one pocket. When I ordered a cue the maker insisted on a regular shaft too. It took longer than anticipated to make and when I opened the box there were 3 shafts, but that’s a different story.
 
Mr. Joshua said:
You may need a regular shaft for one pocket. When I ordered a cue the maker insisted on a regular shaft too. It took longer than anticipated to make and when I opened the box there were 3 shafts, but that’s a different story.
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Looks like there is a big 1 pocket tournament coming with some big names in it, name that play with CF shafts. I wonder what would you say if one of those players win it?
I heard that argument before that a standard deflection shaft is best for 1 pocket, that's just stupid... if you are used to a shaft and can pocket a ball with spin with CF playing any other game, than you can do it in 1 pocket as well. the CB has no idea what hit it...
 
skor said:
Looks like there is a big 1 pocket tournament coming with some big names in it, name that play with CF shafts. I wonder what would you say if one of those players win it?
I heard that argument before that a standard deflection shaft is best for 1 pocket, that's just stupid... if you are used to a shaft and can pocket a ball with spin with CF playing any other game, than you can do it in 1 pocket as well. the CB has no idea what hit it...
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Yeah, I would argue that a high quality CF shaft is far better, for one pocket, then any maple shaft. With one pocket, maybe even more then any other game, you need very good cue ball control, and with CF shafts, that is precisely what they offer. Great cue ball control.
 
There are some 1p banks that come up where deflection helps the cueball avoid a double kiss. Banks that are only possible with maple and not cf. Danny Smith and Tony Chohan demonstrated these while f*ing around inbetween matches is why I mention it. Not my opinion or skill but theirs. Maple +1 in that regard. Other 1p players like Scott Frost say he likes a light cue playing one pocket (maple) because he can tuck whitey and pinch it into tight positions better. You can do that a lot easier with carbon and half the stroke. (+1 cf in that regard). They all have their pros and cons.
 
vintagecollectibles831 said:
No way. It is not even opinion. It is fact. No other shafts have the low deflection, and control, and power that CF shafts offer. Shafts like the Whyte Carbon, and the Mezz Ignite, to name a few examples. The powerful English, and control that you can get from those shafts are like no standard or any Maple shaft, for that matter.

This is coming from a Naysayer that never even wanted to try a CF shaft out. The Whyte Carbon was a game changer for me though. One of the 1st CF shafts I ever tried, because a friend loned one to me, during a tournament, because I had no cue at the time.
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Maybe I’m not smart enough to figure this out but if you get more power, more spin and more English, wouldn’t the cue ball be harder to control?
 
Rodney said:
Maybe I’m not smart enough to figure this out but if you get more power, more spin and more English, wouldn’t the cue ball be harder to control?
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Not for me, lol. Not with a little time getting used to the shaft. With a high quality CF shaft, if you hit a bad shot, you only have yourself to blame. Zero squirt, if that makes sense. No deflection. So much easier to do what you want to with the cue ball, with less effort.
 
J SCHWARZ said:
There are some 1p banks that come up where deflection helps the cueball avoid a double kiss. Banks that are only possible with maple and not cf. Danny Smith and Tony Chohan demonstrated these while f*ing around inbetween matches is why I mention it. Not my opinion or skill but theirs. Maple +1 in that regard. Other 1p players like Scott Frost say he likes a light cue playing one pocket (maple) because he can tuck whitey and pinch it into tight positions better. You can do that a lot easier with carbon and half the stroke. (+1 cf in that regard). They all have their pros and cons.
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This only proves that they haven't controlled the CF shaft yet.
CB deflection only affects the CB path from leaving the cue upon impact until it hits the target (OB or rail); it does not affect the CB path after contacting the target, only the angle of hit, spin and power will have an effect, which means that they miss the target point.
 
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