Middle Finger vs Forefinger

I have tried most of the suggestion posted. Good suggestions...Thanks.

This is what seems to work best for me. I put the cue ball on a white paper reinforcement. Then another reinforcement where my tip finishes the stroke. After a couple of practice shots (cue ball only), I concentrate on where the cue touches the heel of my hand. That is my 'trigger point. Try it...
 
The Grip can "ruin" the results- even if you re aligned perfectly :-) extremley underestimated fact

And of course tough to *fix it* on your own.
@ Fran: like your description :-)
 
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When the last three are the main pressure points of the grip, the thumb and index never come into play. The thumb doesn't cross or grab on to the third finger. With this grip, the thumb and index finger are lightly around the cue, with the thumb maybe barely touching the third finger, but certainly not wrapped around it. In the follow through position, the thumb and index finger are laying parallel alongside the cue. Having the thumb and index finger face downward is more of an exercise to get used to taking the pressure off of those two fingers, but not necessary, once you've mastered the pressure points of that grip.

Now, as to why --- a few reasons. First, the index and the thumb are the twisting fingers. If you're going to twist your cue, it will be with those two. Many players have found a way of avoiding the twist with those two, but it's not exactly a natural hand position and doesn't move naturally with the cue.

Using the last three, keeps the hand in it's most natural position as the cue moves through the stroke. It also facilitates the concept of shooting with your arm rather than with your hand. Unless you're doing something special which you're not most of the time, your grip should do nothing more than hold on to the cue without twisting it, and move naturally with it.

The pinkie is the anchor and the extension of your arm. Taking it off the cue makes your grip hand more flexible. That works if you need to snap your cue, or as the players of the older times --- used to stand tall, and needed wrist movement for speed due to their limited arm swings. It also works well in short shots in 14.1 where you need power but don't have the room for a big stroke. But these days, with players standing low, pinkie off is more of a weapon in your arsenal than part of your regular grip.

Sometimes things get passed down that aren't needed anymore if you question them.
Fran,
A few months ago I started doing drills at home… I am just at a time in my life that I can commit more to pool. Anyway, I shoot the drill where I shoot the ball to the short rail and have it returned to my tip. I do this every single day with varying degrees of success. Once I get it fairly consistently … I seem to develop something new. I’ve taken all the videos and looked from all the angles to no avail. It just seems to be a moving target.
Anyway.. holding my cue the way you say to in your post is unbelievably awkward but oh my God… It is the answer. It is the way. It is the truth. 1,000,000 thank yous.
 
Fran,
A few months ago I started doing drills at home… I am just at a time in my life that I can commit more to pool. Anyway, I shoot the drill where I shoot the ball to the short rail and have it returned to my tip. I do this every single day with varying degrees of success. Once I get it fairly consistently … I seem to develop something new. I’ve taken all the videos and looked from all the angles to no avail. It just seems to be a moving target.
Anyway.. holding my cue the way you say to in your post is unbelievably awkward but oh my God… It is the answer. It is the way. It is the truth. 1,000,000 thank yous.
Glad to hear it helped, Leigh. Perhaps you were twisting the cue ever so slightly with the first two fingers. As for the awkwardness, it's because right now it's out of your comfort zone, but for those of us who have been using that grip for years and decades, it feels perfectly natural. So if you're willing to subject yourself to the process, just give it a little time.
 
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Glad to hear it helped, Leigh. Perhaps you were twisting the cue ever so slightly with the first two fingers. As for the awkwardness, it's because right now it's out of your comfort zone, but for those of us who have been using that grip for years and decades, it feels perfectly natural. So if you're willing to subject yourself to the process, just give it a little time.
You need to feel comfortable being uncomfortable :-) ( great quote from the great Ken Ravizza).
 
Glad to hear it helped, Leigh. Perhaps you were twisting the cue ever so slightly with the first two fingers. As for the awkwardness, it's because right now it's out of your comfort zone, but for those of us who have been using that grip for years and decades, it feels perfectly natural. So if you're willing to subject yourself to the process, just give it a little time.
oh - I'm a believer... I will suffer the awkwardness and get to the other side.
 
oh - I'm a believer... I will suffer the awkwardness and get to the other side.
Gradually you can start to place the first two back around the cue, but keep the pressure of those two light and play mainly with the last three. A lot of people who play mainly with the first two, tend to play more with their hand than with their arm to where their hand is in some kind of motion during the stroke --- whether it's intentionally opening and closing the back three, or wrist movement, or both. With the main pressure points on the back three, you are eliminating all that unnecessary hand movement and are allowing your arm swing to do the work without being interfered with by your hand. The hand is supposed to assist the arm, not control the swing in at least 90 percent of your shots.
 
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