Mis-cue to often

[sde]

I will agree that a harder tip may require more attention to whether your tip is properly dressed and chalked, but otherwise, I concur with Scott Lee. The most likely scenario is that the original poster is either deviating too far from the center or is not strokingly smoothly straight through the ball.

A softer tip may not hurt, but it is most likely not the solution to the problem.

I agree.
With out seeing the OP stroke the CB it is difficult to know why the increase of miscues.
I only made the statement in my previous post because it had not been mentioned by anyone else.

Steve

 

[nyjoe14.1]

Ok guys, thanks to all who replied, ill have my stroke checked out before I change my tip.


Joe

 

[tedkaufman]

I agree with the posters who said miscues are most often the result of a bad stroke. My most frequent miscues occur either when I need an inordinant amount of spin and cross the thin line between possible and hope. Often, in those situations, the added tension of knowing I'm on the edge will invite a poor or uncommitted stroke that ensures a miscue.

Now and then I'll miscue because of careless chalking. I certainly know better, and wish I could say it never happens, but alas, I cannot. Each time it happens I berate myself for such a stupid error and become a pragmatic chalker. But that pragmatism doesn't last forever.

I will say, since switching to a Sniper tip a couple of months ago, I very seldom miscue. In the past, I had always used hard to med-hard tips: Lepro, Triangle, Everest and Moori M, all of which play pretty much the same. However, the Sniper tip actually does grab the cueball better and holds chalk like velcro. Moreover, it's astonishing how well it holds its shape. I haven't shaped the tip since the first week I put it on. Even with the other hard tips I listed, I'd have the touch them up a little every week or two. Not at all with the Sniper. It's clearly the best tip I've ever used.

 

[chefjeff]

Ok guys, thanks to all who replied, ill have my stroke checked out before I change my tip.


Joe

A conversation I had with a guy the other night might help...

This guy is an old timer and played Mosconi in an exhibition match years ago. Willie mentioned to him some fundamentals and one of them we were discussing was the bridge hand location.

Willie said that locating the bridge hand was the most important fundamental in reference to successfully hitting the desired spot on the cueball. Not the grip or stroke so much, but the bridge hand details. My friend said he'srecently been focusing on this again and has acheived better shots. It is easy to overlook this when lining up a shot, but the consequences are bad (miscues included, of course) if the bridge is off even by the slightest amount.

Since my lasik eye surgeries totally changed my eye/hand coordination abilities, I've had to consciously be sure my bridge hand is in the proper place, as seeing its exact location is harder than before my surgeries. If I forget to consciously do this, I tend to miscue on a break shot, for example.

fwiw,

Jeff Livingston

 

[Irish634]

Sure, I can explain it to you, but I'd have to see you stroke the CB to really answer your question. Regarding tip hardness...all tips are 'hard' to the touch. Even a 'soft' tip will not have any recognizable give in your hand, or glued on the end of your cue. IMO, if you blindfolded poolplayers, few if any would be able to tell a significant difference between tips. Maybe one of these days we'll do a blindfold test among several good players, and see what they say. I'll stick with what I said...you likely have some stroke flaw, that is causing you to miscue.

Scott Lee

I agree with the assessment that a stroke flaw is the likely cause if this. I used to miscue while trying to "juice" the cue ball until learned to play smarter, not harder. Once I realized I didn't really have to hit more than 1 1/2 tips from center on most shots to get the same effect, my miscues dropped to nearly nothing. That was almost 10 years ago and probably one of the best things I could have done to improve my game.

As for the tips... I did seem to notice more "action" when I switched to a layered tip, but that's really arbitrary without a smooth stroke.

My $0.02
Craig

 

[renard]

Absolutely true!

Miscues occur because of a misdirected stroke, or lack of chalk...PERIOD. Hardness of the tip means nothing. Everyone miscues on occasion...but nowhere near once an hour. Have your stroke checked out by a qualified instructor.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

You are correct but it is true harder tips need to be chalked more often as they are notorious for not holding chalk as well as a soft tip. So a hard tip does play into this, it's up to the player to keep up on the maintenance of the tip and keeping it well chalked. There in lies the problem.

Stoke is the other end of the equation, especially when juicing the ball...

 

[Thunderball]

I still think a quality medium layered tip will improve your situation.A stroke flaw may still be there and you may still miscue from time to time,but I'll bet you will miscue less...and considerably so....

A short story:
A few weeks ago my bud got a nearly new cuetec.He was squirting the ball all over the place.This guy is a pretty good shot whos been playing for years (he had his case stolen...hence the need for a new cue now).

When I took my cue in for a new tip I took his in too.He got the talisman,med,layered.Now he miscues less,if at all.Before it was chronic..horrilble...he wouldn't play with it until he got the new tip.Scuffing,shaping chalking just brought on more frustration.

New tip,problem gone.PERIOD.

Now I realize my buddy might have a "stroke problem" and if he didn't all these miscues may not have been happening.BUT he did not replace his stroke,he replaced his tip.

I realize what some of the posters here are saying and as a whole it may well hold true.I imagine most of these people may have a lot more knowledge then I do,but I have confidance it what I have experienced as well.

Buy a new med layered tip.It will help with the miscues.Thats fact IMO.

If it doesn't.send me the bill.