Missing Pros

wahcheck

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I was just thinking of pro players who seem to have disappeared from competition....One is David Howard....does anybody know what happened to him? Can you think of others who were prominent pro players that no longer compete on the pro level?
 
wahcheck said:
I was just thinking of pro players who seem to have disappeared from competition....One is David Howard....does anybody know what happened to him? Can you think of others who were prominent pro players that no longer compete on the pro level?


David Howard has a poolroom in Jacksonville Fla called "Lil Davids". Last time we talked, he'd scrapped his plans of going back on the tour. He didn't feel that the present state of Mens Pro Billiards, warranted his taking the time away from his business.

David and I are old road partners and have been friends for a long time. We had some great times back in the 80's along with Gary Spaeth, Chris MacDonald, Earl, Buddy, Blud, Swannie and several others. Oh, the memories! lol

just more hot air!

Sherm
 
what happened to cj wiley

i remember back in the early 90,s when i first start hitting the bigger tourneys that cj and his sweet wife were always present. Havent heard from him in a long time, i know he has a pool room and night club in texas. Other than that he bleeped off the radar. I watched a few older accu stats and cj was a fast paced shooter, he was in position for the next shot before the cue ball arrived. He ran tons of racks but when the tuff shots were there his speed hurt him. Thats only my opinion.

ANY ONE KNOW WHERE CJ IS.
 
David Howard played in the UPA event in Jacksonville last month. It was both a surprise and a pleasure to see him. I was out of the pool scene for many yrs and there's a ton of different faces... I often wonder whatever happend to alot of those guys. CJ I think pretty much gave it up and is making his money with the pool room & club in Dallas.

Two others I haven't heard of in awhile are Roger Griffis & Jimmy Mataya.
 
wahcheck said:
I was just thinking of pro players who seem to have disappeared from competition....One is David Howard....does anybody know what happened to him? Can you think of others who were prominent pro players that no longer compete on the pro level?


George "Ginky" SanSouci
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
George "Ginky" SanSouci
Hey, maybe Ginky is gearing up to play again? He greeted me at Master Billiards in Queens--he was practicing with Jennifer Barretta. He still playes in some Tri State tournaments too, no?
 
9 Ball Girl said:
Hey, maybe Ginky is gearing up to play again? He greeted me at Master Billiards in Queens--he was practicing with Jennifer Barretta. He still playes in some Tri State tournaments too, no?


Yes, he does. I actually see him quite often and I know that if push came to shove, he could be ready for any sort of action in little time. It's a real shame he lost interest. I'd be willing to argue that he was a future hall-of-famer.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Yes, he does. I actually see him quite often and I know that if push came to shove, he could be ready for any sort of action in little time. It's a real shame he lost interest. I'd be willing to argue that he was a future hall-of-famer.
Why don't you talk both he and Balukas into coming back. Say a one year trek to see how far they can go. Film it and make a documentary. Just remember to mention me as the inspiration when you pick up the 2007 Oscar for short feature. :)
 
ScottR said:
Why don't you talk both he and Balukas into coming back. Say a one year trek to see how far they can go. Film it and make a documentary. Just remember to mention me as the inspiration when you pick up the 2007 Oscar for short feature. :)


Yeah, I've got my movie camera right here in my pocket. I'll just give them a call now. Seriously, Ginky has told me that his interest is completely lost. In his words, "What else is there for me to accomplish?" He has a point. It's very tough grind.
 
I thought that Ginky had left pool to try and be a poker player. Tang Hoa also went the poker route I think. Ronnie Allen joked at the Hardtimes event he was going to quit and start playing poker.

I thought that I'd heard Ginky was thinking of playing again...maybe poker isn't as easy as everyone thinks.

CJ hasn't entered an event in a long time. I think he plays golf instead of pool when he isn't doing his business duties.Anyone in Dallas know if he ever plays private games?

Mataya does commentary but I can't remember the last time I saw his name as a player.

I don't know why Griffis stopped playing. Probably a family man.

Others: Mark Tadd, Mike Sigel, Reed Pierce, Dave Bollman, Mark Jarvis, Jimmy Fusco
 
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it sucks that ginky lost intrest but he was at masters last week and won the open. balukas doesnt seem intrested either. altho she plays in her own weekly tourneys.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Seriously, Ginky has told me that his interest is completely lost. In his words, "What else is there for me to accomplish?" He has a point. It's very tough grind.


WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP!
 
bud green said:
I thought that Ginky had left pool to try and be a poker player. Tang Hoa also went the poler route I think. Ronnie Allen joked at the Hardtimes event he was going to quit and start playing poker.

I thought that I'd heard Ginky was thinking of playing again...maybe poker isn't as easy as everyone thinks.

CJ hasn't entered an event in a long time. I think he plays golf instead of pool when he isn't doing his business duties.Anyone in Dallas know if he ever plays private games?

Mataya does commentary but I can't remember the last time I saw his name as a player.

I don't know why Griffis stopped playing. Probably a family man.

Others: Mark Tadd, Mike Sigel, Reed Pierce, Dave Bollman, Mark Jarvis, Jimmy Fusco


Ginky said the same thing to me about poker. Honestly, I haven't heard much about his ventures in this field. He might be doing quite well but he hasn't said anything about it. All I can tell you is that he's not absent from the pool scene but hasn't gotten to a point where he wishes to compete.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
George "Ginky" SanSouci

he sure plays alot to not want to come back on tour. everytime i'm up that way, i see him playing.

i do see his point though..........he put in tons of time for not so many tons of rewards, despite being a world class player.

VAP
 
by the way........bollman finished 6th at the US OPEN last year, beating guys such as souqet......he's definitely still got game.

VAP
 
Bollman took 6th? That's pretty damn good.

He seems like a very nice guy from the commentary I've heard him do on some accu-stats tapes. Talented as hell to be a pro golfer and then win pro pool events.

He also won a major one pocket event years ago ( and broke poor Bill Incardonas' heart- the commentary on the end of the tape is almost sad). Maybe he'll play in the US OPEN in Vegas in October.
 
bud green said:
Bollman took 6th? That's pretty damn good.

He seems like a very nice guy from the commentary I've heard him do on some accu-stats tapes. Talented as hell to be a pro golfer and then win pro pool events.

He also won a major one pocket event years ago ( and broke poor Bill Incardonas' heart- the commentary on the end of the tape is almost sad). Maybe he'll play in the US OPEN in Vegas in October.


the us open is in va beach in september. i think thats the women's us open in october.

VAP
 
9 Ball Girl said:
Hey, maybe Ginky is gearing up to play again? He greeted me at Master Billiards in Queens--he was practicing with Jennifer Barretta. He still playes in some Tri State tournaments too, no?


I read in a pool mag that Ginky has retiered from playing pool and moved on to play poker because there was more money in it the article was in billiard digest..
 
matthew staton said:
I read in a pool mag that Ginky has retiered from playing pool and moved on to play poker because there was more money in it the article was in billiard digest..


Yes, that is correct. You did read that. However, we KNOW that Ginky is spending an inordinate amount of time playing pool still. He's not exactly running off to AC every other day.
 
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