Monarch cushions

[Arrowslinger148]

My 50 year old crown 2 has original monarch cushions on it and was curious how many rails should I get on bounce back ? I’m a little over 3 too 3.5 . Wasn’t sure this normal or time to replace with something else . Artemis?

 

[rexus31]

Very likely you've got some dead spots. First, are you certain your table is a Gold Crown II? There's lots of misinformation out there. It is more than likely a Gold Crown I as the GCII was only offered from '74-'76. Either way, the subrail bevel will need to be adjusted to accept modern K55 profile cushions to retain a true 2:1 ratio (50"x100") playing surface. Having had Artemis on a previous table, I'm not sure the extra cost is worth it. I went with Diamond Black cushions on my Gold Crown I and love the way they play.

 

[Arrowslinger148]

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length

 

[fastone371]

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length

i replaced my Monarch Superspeeds on my GCI with Artemis, had the subrails done too, if I didnt tighten up the pockets I would have kept the Monarchs on it, they were still good. If I were doing my table right now I think I would put Superspeeds on it, I don't believe there is any advantage to Artemis, its just what everyone was using when I did my table. Monkey see monkey do.

 

[Arrowslinger148]

Even if u were getting the cushions pretty much for free would u do the super speed still?

 

[rexus31]

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length

Say what? All cushions for a Pro 8' and a 9' table are 48" long. I think someone is telling you a story if they are saying Artemis are the only cushions that will fit.

Love to see a pic of your table! It's not often you see a true Gold Crown II.

Table - 1975 | Brunswick Billiards

 

[muskyed]

As some one who doesn't have a Gold Crown, but read many posts on here claiming that rails need to be modified to use cushions available now, I have to wonder. Isn't there any cushion available for the older Gold Crowns that the rails don't have to be modified? It's hard enough to get a table mechanic qualified enough to recover a table, let enough trust them to modify your rails.
Without easily available correct cushions for these old tables, it's just a matter of time before they fade away due to the scarcity of qualified installers.

 

[rexus31]

As some one who doesn't have a Gold Crown, but read many posts on here claiming that rails need to be modified to use cushions available now, I have to wonder. Isn't there any cushion available for the older Gold Crowns that the rails don't have to be modified? It's hard enough to get a table mechanic qualified enough to recover a table, let enough trust them to modify your rails.
Without easily available correct cushions for these old tables, it's just a matter of time before they fade away due to the scarcity of qualified installers.

No there is not and no they won't.

 

[Arrowslinger148]

My guy didn’t say they were only ones that fit I may have misspoke . He has a new set of Artemis and said I could have them if I wanted to go that route or pay for superspeeds . Either way there is no current direct replacement for the monarchs

 

[Arrowslinger148]

My guy didn’t say they were only ones that fit I may have misspoke . He has a new set of Artemis and said I could have them if I wanted to go that route or pay for superspeeds . Either way there is no current direct replacement for the monarchs

Say what? All cushions for a Pro 8' and a 9' table are 48" long. I think someone is telling you a story if they are saying Artemis are the only cushions that will fit.

Love to see a pic of your table! It's not often you see a true Gold Crown II.

Table - 1975 | Brunswick Billiards

 

[rexus31]

Very cool! Thanks for posting! That table appears to be untouched.

 

[jtompilot]

Best looking old GC I’ve ever seen. Take the Artemis and call it a day.

 

[bbb]

Very cool! Thanks for posting! That table appears to be untouched.

@rexus31
the nameplate says gc2 and model E 1or I(capital "eye")
what does the model number mean
i cant find a link with pics

 

[rexus31]

@rexus31
the nameplate says gc2 and model E 1or I(capital "eye")
what does the model number mean
i cant find a link with pics

Haven't the slightest idea. Perhaps it's just the model number, like AR 6100 is the model number for the GCI.