Moori difficulty....

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eyesjr

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I am a long-time player, and have always installed my own tips. I have done some testing to see if I can fix this problem, but I can't, and I need some help.

When I first put on a Moori, the useable off-center hit of the cueball increases from the norm, and as I play with it it decreases. After about two weeks, the spin capability is not just back to normal, it is sub-standard.

I have tried the following techniques:
--Using a razor trimmer to cut tip instead of trimming on a lathe.
--Using slower lower heat shaping methods.
--applying a bit of water on a paper towel to moisten the tip a little. used varied amounts.
--treating with light oil....
Gotta go in a rush, if anyone here knows of any fixes, please let me know....
 
You are asking if there is an installation technique that can help you apply more spin to the cueball?
Hmmmmmmm...... Im confused as to what you need to know.
Chuck
 
eyesjr said:
I am a long-time player, and have always installed my own tips. I have done some testing to see if I can fix this problem, but I can't, and I need some help.

When I first put on a Moori, the useable off-center hit of the cueball increases from the norm, and as I play with it it decreases. After about two weeks, the spin capability is not just back to normal, it is sub-standard.

I have tried the following techniques:
--Using a razor trimmer to cut tip instead of trimming on a lathe.
--Using slower lower heat shaping methods.
--applying a bit of water on a paper towel to moisten the tip a little. used varied amounts.
--treating with light oil....
Gotta go in a rush, if anyone here knows of any fixes, please let me know....
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What you are experiencing is just the tip hardening up with play. That is normal. Tips get harder and play differently with use.
 
Tip Play

Chris is right, you should not judge a tip by the way it plays the first few hours. It needs to break in before it takes on its real nature. The advantage of Moori and other premium tips is that once broken in, they will hit consistently over a long period of time. But even a premium tip will loose its characteristics as the tip gets thinner. Too many players try to use a tip until it is like a tissue paper, they most likely cost themselves many games by not changing it sooner! I can tell in a minute if a tip is worn out by watching a player, and listening to the hit. I like those guys though, I get to sell them ferrules too!
 
I think you should try a softer grade of tip. If you are using a hard try a medium. If medium, try a soft.
As for the trimming, if the layers are not delaminating, then ususally what you are doing is OK.
It is good that you are using sharp tools and keeping the friction heat to a minimum.
I would not use too much moisture when trimming a tip though. I wet the blade and that seems to be enough. I make alot of passes shaving off the leather.
I also have used a dremel with new sanding drums. About med speed and they work real well. Makes alot of leather dust though.
Nel Lickfold
 
remoori diff.

Thanks guys, I guess I left out a little background - I have been doing cue repairs since 93, and I understand they should harden with play, hence the water/oil attempts to soften. Even tried coca-cola.

It seems if i smush in a vice a little, it helps a tad. I guess what happens is the tip compresses uniform, where a shaped, medium tip compresses wherever hit.

I wonder wher the guy that says hardness doesn't affect spin is during this conversation...

Anyway, The main problem is the inconsistencies I see - the useable area of the cueball is diminished smaller than a lepro/crushed/played 1 month. It is smaller than a TRIANGLE (after 1 month too)even though the triangle is cheap and grainy looking these days.

I never had this happen before, and I was wondering since the Moori changed a while back , if this is a commonly occurring thing, possibly I got a few bad ones, or what...
 
Perhaps yu shoul clarify as to what Moori you are using and what hardess it was to. Personally I have seen no significant variation in Moori.
 
Tried em all, bud.

I've been acroos their entire product offering, and the same results. I first tried medium, never hada problem. Replaced it and it had the problem Im talkin about. Then I naturally went softer. Got pissed after it screwed up and went hard. Hard lasted the longest, I have actually killed a Moori in 3 weeks flat, I use a lot of spin, slow, hard too. I play a lot of one pocket and The way I have fun playing nineball is moving Whitey around - theres hard spin.

Lepro's and elkmasters have outlasted the Moori on my cue. But my customers who use it have no problem. I play Everyday, sometimes 1-2 hrs, sometimes 12.

cuetipper said:
Perhaps yu shoul clarify as to what Moori you are using and what hardess it was to. Personally I have seen no significant variation in Moori.
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