Moori Story

[DeadStrokeMan]

Bought 314 shaft - came with LePro - unacceptable. In Vegas had a guy put on a Moori tip for me - he only had this old can of "unknown" moori's. Said fine - put it on.

Played GREAT for the first few racks ...then 'plink' - what? I don't miscue - rare. Then 'klink' - what? I look at the tip and see the impact piont ... looked good to me.

So - I blow it off and suppose I was strokin' poorly - meanwhile I have this "hesitation" in my stroke because I had overReached several times.

So - the Joss tourney comes up and I mention this to Mike Webb. He tells me that Moori ORIGNAL tips were prone to this and they had "re-Engineered" them. So I have Mike re-tip with a MedHard.

Perfect - had my full reach back ... never miscued again.

In the meantime - I recently purchased a new 314 with a Moori. I was stoked up because this has the proper joint ( United Joint) for my Mezz. I rack 'em up and toss 'em around - WOW ...great impact ...great TIP!

I go through a few racks .... 'PLINK'! WTH?

I recon' that this is the same type-tip I had Mike replace. Either a) Original Batch or b) Moori Hard - in which case I'm supprized.

Anyone else experience this? I'm a very high level player - a miscue on the "brain" is not good for the 'stroke'. I still have this tip on and am going to try to find its "limits" - get the feel for this thing because I suspect it may be a minor stroke modification.

 

[longhair]

once upon a time, a long, long time ago...

I had an original type moori put on my cue and had this exact experience. For a short time I loved it, then I learned that I couldn't really trust it, or couldn't trust myself with it. I replaced it after a few months, and I haven't tried one of the newer ones. I guess I thought that they were all like that and I just didn't know how to use it.

 

[Michael Webb]

I don't know if this will help but I do a couple of things different from other people. The main part is I treat the tips after they are installed, It's my own system which I don't share but it does help the tips play the way they're suppose to play. I do this to every tip installed. It doesn't matter what kind it is.

 

[DeadStrokeMan]

I don't know if this will help but I do a couple of things different from other people. The main part is I treat the tips after they are installed, It's my own system which I don't share but it does help the tips play the way they're suppose to play. I do this to every tip installed. It doesn't matter what kind it is.

LOL - shsssssh - its a secret

Ok - ya gotta 'tip me in' - I'll email ya

 

[Celtic]

Anyone else experience this? I'm a very high level player - a miscue on the "brain" is not good for the 'stroke'.

Never experienced that in particular. I did have a problem with misques using Moori mediums, they tend to glaze pretty easy and then they dont hold chalk very well. I use quite alot of spin in my game and having a few misques murdered my game since I was then all nervous about digging alot of bottom or going out near the edge of the cueball. The Moori Soft I switched to months ago, almost a year ago, I honestly cannot remember the last time I misqued, I am not sure I have ever misqued with the softs. My confindence to go low and paly alot of siding is also back in force and I have no worries about doing table length draw shots or drawing running siding bottom to come around 3 rails for shape if I happen to need it.

I can sympathise, get rid of that tip if you now have trouble playing the english you need or start noticing the tip getting a touch closer to the center on the stroke to avoid the miscue, that kind of stuff wrecks your stroke long after the crappy tip is gone.

 

[chefjeff]

This exact thing just happened to me twice the other day, with my Moori medium on a 314 shaft. I thought my ferrule might be cracked, but I see no evidence of this.

I have suspected that as a Moori wears, the edge of each laminated piece "travels" from the outside edge of the tip toward the center. I wonder if this affects the amount of friction with the cueball. (If you look at the tip from the top, the top laminated piece's edge moves toward the center as it wears and finally gets so small, it disappears.)

Has anyone done a study on this?

Jeff Livingston

 

[Kevin Lindstrom]

Never experienced that in particular. I did have a problem with misques using Moori mediums, they tend to glaze pretty easy and then they dont hold chalk very well. I use quite alot of spin in my game and having a few misques murdered my game since I was then all nervous about digging alot of bottom or going out near the edge of the cueball. The Moori Soft I switched to months ago, almost a year ago, I honestly cannot remember the last time I misqued, I am not sure I have ever misqued with the softs. My confindence to go low and paly alot of siding is also back in force and I have no worries about doing table length draw shots or drawing running siding bottom to come around 3 rails for shape if I happen to need it.

I can sympathise, get rid of that tip if you now have trouble playing the english you need or start noticing the tip getting a touch closer to the center on the stroke to avoid the miscue, that kind of stuff wrecks your stroke long after the crappy tip is gone.

I agree and have had some very similar problems. I was using a Le-pro tip prior to switching to the moori (installed at Valley Forge 2004). I told the installer that I was accustom to the Le-pro and they matched me up with a medium moori. I wanted to try the moori to see if there was a real difference or just a 40 dollar per tip install money making hype. I believe the layered tips are an improvement but I need to find a different brand or possible switch to a moori soft. I have layered tips on a pre-owned Troy Downey cue but am still not sure what make they are (see a previuos post I made searching for help) but I will say that I do like those layered tips. They are more of a black or blueish color tip so again if anyone knows the make let me know.

 

[cueman]

I agree and have had some very similar problems. I was using a Le-pro tip prior to switching to the moori (installed at Valley Forge 2004). I told the installer that I was accustom to the Le-pro and they matched me up with a medium moori. I wanted to try the moori to see if there was a real difference or just a 40 dollar per tip install money making hype. I believe the layered tips are an improvement but I need to find a different brand or possible switch to a moori soft. I have layered tips on a pre-owned Troy Downey cue but am still not sure what make they are (see a previuos post I made searching for help) but I will say that I do like those layered tips. They are more of a black or blueish color tip so again if anyone knows the make let me know.

If it is grey/blue it might be a Sniper. They grip the ball really well.
Chris
www.cuesmith.com

 

[lunchmoney]

Bought 314 shaft - came with LePro - unacceptable. In Vegas had a guy put on a Moori tip for me - he only had this old can of "unknown" moori's. Said fine - put it on.

Played GREAT for the first few racks ...then 'plink' - what? I don't miscue - rare. Then 'klink' - what? I look at the tip and see the impact piont ... looked good to me.

So - I blow it off and suppose I was strokin' poorly - meanwhile I have this "hesitation" in my stroke because I had overReached several times.

So - the Joss tourney comes up and I mention this to Mike Webb. He tells me that Moori ORIGNAL tips were prone to this and they had "re-Engineered" them. So I have Mike re-tip with a MedHard.

Perfect - had my full reach back ... never miscued again.

In the meantime - I recently purchased a new 314 with a Moori. I was stoked up because this has the proper joint ( United Joint) for my Mezz. I rack 'em up and toss 'em around - WOW ...great impact ...great TIP!

I go through a few racks .... 'PLINK'! WTH?

I recon' that this is the same type-tip I had Mike replace. Either a) Original Batch or b) Moori Hard - in which case I'm supprized.

Anyone else experience this? I'm a very high level player - a miscue on the "brain" is not good for the 'stroke'. I still have this tip on and am going to try to find its "limits" - get the feel for this thing because I suspect it may be a minor stroke modification.

I tried the Moori and experienced the same problems you describe. I switched to a medium Talisman and love it. They are a little cheaper and I am totally sold on them. The tip I put on my Schon has been there for nearly a year with absolutely no problems. Personal preference I guess.

Lunchmoney

 

[DeadStrokeMan]

- Update

I tried the Moori and experienced the same problems you describe. I switched to a medium Talisman and love it. They are a little cheaper and I am totally sold on them. The tip I put on my Schon has been there for nearly a year with absolutely no problems. Personal preference I guess.

Lunchmoney

After I had miscued the other night - I hit the tip with the shaper a bit. Today I played for about an hour on the snooker table without a mishap.

Then went to the 7'er with the leadMudBall and didn't miscue ..but I did reach the edge of the ball a couple of times. So I think that I "scraped off" whatever that was. We'll see. Maybe it will return again after "compacting" the tip with play.

I'll post on this progress as others have the same issues.