More Ghost Ball Quetions

[Pete]

Hi All,

I've read that playing the 6 ball ghost even is the + of an Accu-Stats 857 (I might be a little off, but I thoght it was around there). Do people know what the other ghost are = to? Is beating the 5 ball ghost like a 600? And what is the race to?

Billiardpete out

 

[sjm]

Hi All,

I've read that playing the 6 ball ghost even is the + of an Accu-Stats 857 (I might be a little off, but I thoght it was around there). Do people know what the other ghost are = to? Is beating the 5 ball ghost like a 600? And what is the race to?

Billiardpete out

Not a simple comparison, as one's competitive Accu-stats performance percentages reflect ones offense, defense, kicking, etc., and playing the ghost is only about the break and the runout skills. I'll take a shot anyway.

Only solid pro level players have a historical .857 accu-stats, and any such player will be a favorite to beat the ten ball ghost.

I think a player who has an Accu-stats percentage of .700 to .750 (a low A player) should have fairly even action with the nine ball ghost.

I would think a player with a .600 Accu-stats (probably a C+ player) figure historically has a pretty even game against the six ball ghost.

Just one man's opinion.

 

[Pete]

Not a simple comparison, as one's competitive Accu-stats performance percentages reflect ones offense, defense, kicking, etc., and playing the ghost is only about the break and the runout skills. I'll take a shot anyway.

Only solid pro level players have a historical .857 accu-stats, and any such player will be a favorite to beat the ten ball ghost.

I think a player who has an Accu-stats percentage of .700 to .750 (a low A player) should have fairly even action with the nine ball ghost.

I would think a player with a .600 Accu-stats (probably a C+ player) figure historically has a pretty even game against the six ball ghost.

Just one man's opinion.

Thanks.

What do you think a B player would do?

Billiardpete out

 

[sjm]

Thanks.

What do you think a B player would do?

Billiardpete out

A typical B player would have, per my best guess an Accu-stat percentage of a about .640. In my view, he/she is a clear favorite to prevail against the six ball ghost but will be overmatched against the nine ball ghost. Playing the seven ball ghost should be close, but my guess is that the B player is a very slight underdog. In contrast, a B+ player (perhaps .675) should be able to beat the seven ball ghost more often than not.

 

[unknownpro]

Hi All,

I've read that playing the 6 ball ghost even is the + of an Accu-Stats 857 (I might be a little off, but I thoght it was around there). Do people know what the other ghost are = to? Is beating the 5 ball ghost like a 600? And what is the race to?

Billiardpete out

I posted that figure of 857 for breaking even with the 6-ball ghost to emphasize the difficulty of what may seem easy to some. Basically, you've got to make 6 out of 7 balls to play even in that game. Divide 6 by 7 and you get an 857 accu-stats rating. You won't have to pocket all 6 balls every game, but you'll also pocket balls in games where you don't get out, so I figure those two will cancel each other out, at the least.

5-ball would be 833
7-ball would be 875
8-ball rotation 889
9-ball 900
10-ball 909
12-ball 923
15-ball 937

These games imo simply can't be won without shooting those percentages. Obviously, it is easier to shoot an 857 in 6-ball than it would be with 9 balls on the table as there will be fewer clusters and you're less likely to get hooked. But the balls will not be any closer to the pockets in general so the skill level of pocketing balls is not really that far apart. A good player on an easy table can play sloppily and win. But on a really tight table, you still have to play some decent position or be a very good shot maker.

The race length doesn't matter. I like to play until I can win 10-ahead sets, then I feel I can say I can beat that game.

unknownpro