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Hit some balls on a 9ft home Brunswick something or another. Aside from the 375/30 R21 pockets, a revelation.

You can miss. Really. I'm old but these things are actually designed to curb the behavior of brats and their friends.
It's the plastic ball buckets. You can,

make the ball do a 180 by grazing one facing - ball zips around and back at you.
simply bounce the ball back out from a variety of angles with a typical hard stroke
and the rubber is very live and very willing to spit. No excessive cheating doable

Kudos to the geniuses at Brunswick.
 
yea even the old bucket tables reject badly hit balls. but take a lot more so its fun to play on.
 
maha said:
yea even the old bucket tables reject badly hit balls. but take a lot more so its fun to play on.
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It's tucked away in a gym's game room gathering looks or something. Funny I got good use out of it practicing. It's level and boingy too.
 
Aim the hall correctly and the ball goes in no matter the size of the pocket.

Nobody should be cheating the pocket unless the object ball and pocket is in front of your face.
 
smiling_Hans said:
Try making it and use English rather than the cheating.

I play on 4.25 or smaller. Somebody convinced the owner and they switched.
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Gotta get used to the low speed I think. Gotta be 5+ inchlings. Bringing a tape measure next time.

Regular table is a Global 8 ft at the bar.

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I remember a session where I was playing someone from FL for a little bit. Tough sets but I won the first two. We doubled the bet and that third set was close. Racing to 9 and I was on the hill up 8-7.

Clearly I had to nail this rack down. I was running out and had a long, straight shot on the 9 ball. It was about 18" from the corner and I was shooting from all the way inside the kitchen up table, so full length shot (like a little longer version of the mighty x stop shot). Anyway, I dug deep and fired that ball right into the heart of the pocket. Somehow it spit back out of the pocket and landed right in the jaws. I was stunned and could do nothing as he laughed and tapped it in to go hill-hill.

As I was racking for him I thought about what a terrible beat that would be, to lose the set after literally shooting in the winning 9 ball. I starting thinking about relating the story to my pals later for sympathy and how it would rank as one of the most painful losses I've taken.

Then I realized what I was doing. I was visualizing losing, and even looking forward to it in a twisted way. I got mad at myself. I decided I didn't want to be a victim, and I didn't want to do anything to incentivize myself to lose. So I made a deal with myself: If I lost that match, I would never tell anyone what happened. I would just say "I lost". But if I WON that match I would allow myself to tell the story of how I got it done despite the coldest of rolls.

Fortunately for me I am here telling the story.

Anyway, thought I'd share. But I'm with OP. The number one priority of a pool table is for balls to be pocketed. Spitting back onto the table should be something that happens once a decade, not once a set!
 
smiling_Hans said:
Aim the hall correctly and the ball goes in no matter the size of the pocket.

Nobody should be cheating the pocket unless the object ball and pocket is in front of your face.
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How else other than cheating the pocket would you move the ball around if you get out of line? What if your opponent leaves you a bad angle?
 
FWIW, :D

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Notice the hairpin lying in wait. The ball will also just bounce out in a variety of ways.
The shelf is pretty deep too. No wonder you can't wiggle the balls in at speed.
 
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Tin Man said:
I remember a session where I was playing someone from FL for a little bit. Tough sets but I won the first two. We doubled the bet and that third set was close. Racing to 9 and I was on the hill up 8-7.

Clearly I had to nail this rack down. I was running out and had a long, straight shot on the 9 ball. It was about 18" from the corner and I was shooting from all the way inside the kitchen up table, so full length shot (like a little longer version of the mighty x stop shot). Anyway, I dug deep and fired that ball right into the heart of the pocket. Somehow it spit back out of the pocket and landed right in the jaws. I was stunned and could do nothing as he laughed and tapped it in to go hill-hill.

As I was racking for him I thought about what a terrible beat that would be, to lose the set after literally shooting in the winning 9 ball. I starting thinking about relating the story to my pals later for sympathy and how it would rank as one of the most painful losses I've taken.

Then I realized what I was doing. I was visualizing losing, and even looking forward to it in a twisted way. I got mad at myself. I decided I didn't want to be a victim, and I didn't want to do anything to incentivize myself to lose. So I made a deal with myself: If I lost that match, I would never tell anyone what happened. I would just say "I lost". But if I WON that match I would allow myself to tell the story of how I got it done despite the coldest of rolls.

Fortunately for me I am here telling the story.

Anyway, thought I'd share. But I'm with OP. The number one priority of a pool table is for balls to be pocketed. Spitting back onto the table should be something that happens once a decade, not once a set!
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Are you that you didnt clip a rail at the pocket opening? I always felt that I got a bad break because so many times I would jaw what looked a great shot on a Diamond when I finally figured it out by watching a similar shot in slow motion, usually they just barely touch the rail before getting to the pocket and it causes the ball to rattle while the ball sits in the jaws and laughs at you. Its very hard to see on shots hit with pace and balls hit at pocket speed will fall.
 
fastone371 said:
Are you that you didnt clip a rail at the pocket opening? I always felt that I got a bad break because so many times I would jaw what looked a great shot on a Diamond when I finally figured it out by watching a similar shot in slow motion, usually they just barely touch the rail before getting to the pocket and it causes the ball to rattle while the ball sits in the jaws and laughs at you. Its very hard to see on shots hit with pace and balls hit at pocket speed will fall.
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Memory is notoriously unreliable, so I'd be a fool to insist I could recall the nuances of a shot from 20 years ago.

This isn't a really hard thing to differentiate, however. I said it jumped off the back of the pocket, but more accurate I should mean it spit out of the pocket. This means it actually fell, disappeared from sight, then popped back up. Like in the video I'll link here.

 
straightline said:
Hit some balls on a 9ft home Brunswick something or another. Aside from the 375/30 R21 pockets, a revelation.

You can miss. Really. I'm old but these things are actually designed to curb the behavior of brats and their friends.
It's the plastic ball buckets. You can,

make the ball do a 180 by grazing one facing - ball zips around and back at you.
simply bounce the ball back out from a variety of angles with a typical hard stroke
and the rubber is very live and very willing to spit. No excessive cheating doable

Kudos to the geniuses at Brunswick.
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Those plastic pockets are the worst. Any pace on the ball at an angle to center pocket will clunk off the edge of the plastic and pop right out. "f-ing Brunswick" was a very common thing to hear At the NDSU Union playing on those things... If i hit center pocket it needs to go down.
 
Tin Man said:
Memory is notoriously unreliable, so I'd be a fool to insist I could recall the nuances of a shot from 20 years ago.

This isn't a really hard thing to differentiate, however. I said it jumped off the back of the pocket, but more accurate I should mean it spit out of the pocket. This means it actually fell, disappeared from sight, then popped back up. Like in the video I'll link here.

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My Brunswick with leather drop pockets will spit one out like that occasionally. I think it's the just the right combination of bounce and spin, because it pops right up and sits on the edge of the pocket like that. I've seen it on several types of tables.
 
Tin Man said:
Memory is notoriously unreliable, so I'd be a fool to insist I could recall the nuances of a shot from 20 years ago.

This isn't a really hard thing to differentiate, however. I said it jumped off the back of the pocket, but more accurate I should mean it spit out of the pocket. This means it actually fell, disappeared from sight, then popped back up. Like in the video I'll link here.

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Oh, OK, I misunderstood, I thought (probably a reading apprehension problem on my part) I thought you just jawed the ball which is so common on Diamonds when hit with pace, most of the time you don't even see it hit the rail on the way in. I few times when I had to hit a ball with pace on my Gold Crown I have seen the ball come straight up out of the pocket but it falls back in the hole. It seems to make 1 lap around the pocket slightly below slate level then shoots up. The one in the video looks to go down then ricochet off of the rear of the pocket throwing it back out.
 
fastone371 said:
Oh, OK, I misunderstood, I thought (probably a reading apprehension problem on my part) I thought you just jawed the ball which is so common on Diamonds when hit with pace, most of the time you don't even see it hit the rail on the way in. I few times when I had to hit a ball with pace on my Gold Crown I have seen the ball come straight up out of the pocket but it falls back in the hole. It seems to make 1 lap around the pocket slightly below slate level then shoots up. The one in the video looks to go down then ricochet off of the rear of the pocket throwing it back out.
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Louie told me once that the number of balls in the hole can affect this as well. He said two balls in the pocket was the perfect number for keeping a bounce out from happening. Any more or any less number of balls than that can cause a disaster to happen - Pop out.
 
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