most important in a cues looks!

[justabrake]

you don't know what your talking about period! you can rough a pocket with a round flat bottom cutter and finnish with a "degreed" cutter. as stated before cnc is not the problem for the rounded point tips it's, among others, the fact that for some it's not as economical to use a cutter with a specific degree to finnish the pockets and then hand contour the part to fit into the v-grove pocket. i suggest if you want to learn a little about cnc go through some of my posts and in some of those threads it all has been explained already. it's funny how often this subject rears it ugly head by people who don't know a thing about cue making, it makes me and many others sit back and wonder what makes people make definitive statements on the subject when they've not even 10% of the info on the subject. i know this post sounds harsh but i'm trully getting tired of the rehashing of "non truths" posted by ignorant people.

so what your saying is if ( this certin blade"degreed cutter"the blade is at an angle it will cut a V shape pocket, well thats all you had to say, now to get back about people not knowing anything let me tell you if you were in front of me right now i'd ***** slap to death> you asshole

 

[skins]

so what your saying is if ( this certin blade"degreed cutter"the blade is at an angle it will cut a V shape pocket, well thats all you had to say, now to get back about people not knowing anything let me tell you if you were in front of me right now i'd ***** slap to death> you asshole

first off i said you were ignorant which means your knowledge on a subject is lacking it doesn't mean your stupid or something condesending but then again if you took what said as an insult then maybe you need english classes. as far as slapping the #$%^&* out of me you don't know me so making a statement like that just shows that you're not too smart either. and by the way if i was in front of you and you did "try" to slap the @#$% out of me you'ld have your hands full and that's something that i'm not ignorant about.

 

[justabrake]

first off i said you were ignorant which means your knowledge on a subject is lacking it doesn't mean your stupid or something condesending but then again if you took what said as an insult then maybe you need english classes. as far as slapping the #$%^&* out of me you don't know me so making a statement like that just shows that you're not too smart either. and by the way if i was in front of you and you did "try" to slap the @#$% out of me you'ld have your hands full and that's something that i'm not ignorant about.

first off macguy was replying to me then you happened to jump in with your stupid remarks, i don't need english classes and I could read and write and understand what an asshole you are if your ever in the metro NYC area don't be shy say hello to me

 

[skins]

first off macguy was replying to me then you happened to jump in with your stupid remarks, i don't need english classes and I could read and write and understand what an asshole you are if your ever in the metro NYC area don't be shy say hello to me

this is an open forum so if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen! trust me i only commented on what macguy and others had and already said. you know nothing about cue making and base your info on a video from a mass production company. as far as coming to NYC to see you i know you wouldn't want that to happen nor would i stupe to your immature level. it's obvious that you don't know how to conduct yourself on an open forum and to the moderators i say you should be pulled from further posting. like i said my post was not meant to be an insult. but wannabee neadertals such as your self make comments that you think make you look tough but actually show your true weaknesss. don't waste our time anymore.

 

[Cornerman]

Fred -how is the CNC machine going to give you a SHARP POINT, please explain!

Steven

I will explain to you Steven, but unless you know what a CNC is, then my explanation will mean nothing. I can say that you aren't alone, and that you represent thousands of ill informed cue buyers, when it comes to the term "CNC." I am trying my best in my articles to educate those that need it. But, as long as cuemakers and cuebuyers incorrectly use the term, then I'm fighting an uphill battle.

CNC is a form of automated motion control. The motions are based on numbers, positions, and functions. If you know anything about the various methods to created V-groove sharp points, then any of those methods can be done automatically.

CNC is only the automation, and not the cutting method. Most ill informed cue buyers erroneously equate CNC with flat-bottom routing. They are not the same. I.e., there is no mutual relationship between the two.

As an automation engineer, I get extremely irked how widespread and misunderstood the term "CNC" has become. Whoever was the first person ever to attribute a flat-bottom point to CNC is on my $hit list.

Fred

 

[justabrake]

this is an open forum so if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen! trust me i only commented on what macguy and others had and already said. you know nothing about cue making and base your info on a video from a mass production company. as far as coming to NYC to see you i know you wouldn't want that to happen nor would i stupe to your immature level. it's obvious that you don't know how to conduct yourself on an open forum and to the moderators i say you should be pulled from further posting. like i said my post was not meant to be an insult. but wannabee neadertals such as your self make comments that you think make you look tough but actually show your true weaknesss. don't waste our time anymore.

I'm not ignorant nor stupid I do alot of reading and from what I gathered on the cnc machines was they couldn't finish a sharp edge being that the cutting tool was round and the finished product had to be finished buy an exacto knife, now it's said here differently , I don't think you should use the word ignorant here to me or anyone else, I've never ran a cnc machine but I have ran $100,000 saws in a cabinet shop.

but if you feel the itch repot it b#itch

Steven

 

[macguy]

first off macguy was replying to me then you happened to jump in with your stupid remarks, i don't need english classes and I could read and write and understand what an asshole you are if your ever in the metro NYC area don't be shy say hello to me

Actually I showed you enough respect to read through your past posts before replying. You are the guy who only a few months back said he never heard of Martin cues, you wrecked your own ferrule with a tip tool, had no idea there is more the one Bear cue, asked dopey questions about adding inlays and turning down butts, never heard of ordering cues with different size butts, and it goes on. It is brutality obvious your knowledge of cues and cue building is extremely minimal.

There are knowledgeable people here, you can't come on here trying to fake knowledge you don't have and think you are going to fool anybody, it becomes obvious when someone doesn't know what they are talking about. Your current response is what I would expect from someone like you, the world can be a confusing place for some people and those who can't cope find violence their only outlet. I am sorry for you, you are like 50 years old maybe it's time to grow up.

 

[zcat27]

Plain Janes

Hi-everyone, what's the most important look in a cue for you!, I seem to favor the the butt end for looks and a notty forearm look!,

I don't go for point's ,but I do like verners, I like a dark butt handle preferable black, dark brown, with inlays of MOP shaped like old palmer cues had, burst of stars or some kind of viking emblem, but the butt of the cue is the most important part of the cue for me,

what do you look for in cues!

I have become a lot more into playing cues of late. So a beautiful wood plain jane type cue with really nice ringwork. Something along the lines of the Tad or Bluegrass look.

 

[Cornerman]

it doesn't matter whats it doing the blade is ROUND and can't make anything sharp.

Steven, this is a very difficult discussion if you don't understand how a sharp point is made today. Any cuemaker even without the use of a CNC-controlled mill can make a sharp point with a round, flat-bottom tool. But it's going to be tough to explain it to you if you've got one picture and only one picture in your mind.

If you take a flat-bottomed mill, and stare at it from the side, you will see that the bottom and the side will form a 90° angle. Since both the bottom and the side of a mill bit cut material, then by positioning the work piece correctly, you can gut a 90° groove. Many cuemakers do this manually today. By adding CNC control, a cuemaker can do the same 90° cut automatically, with precision feed and precision positioning. The groove will still produce the sharpest of sharp points.

CNC only is the automation, not the cutter method.

Fred <~~~ And then there are the 90° angle cutters run on a mill, but that's yet another conversation.

 

[skins]

I'm not ignorant nor stupid I do alot of reading and from what I gathered on the cnc machines was they couldn't finish a sharp edge being that the cutting tool was round and the finished product had to be finished buy an exacto knife, now it's said here differently , I don't think you should use the word ignorant here to me or anyone else, I've never ran a cnc machine but I have ran $100,000 saws in a cabinet shop.

but if you feel the itch repot it b#itch

Steven

yes! you are ignorant to the facts of using a cnc for cue making. you answered yourself when you said that cnc made rounded edges from the cutting "tool". there are many different cutting tools for a milling machine, cnc controlled or not, and most are not round. if you have questions ask and the people who can answer them will show up eventually and and post. don't post "your" truth and try to defend it when there is no basis in fact in it. like i will say again my post sounded harsh but wasn't meant that way thats not how i am. this site has too many threads on this subject and the answers you're looking for are in those threads. cnc is a just another way of using an age old "tool" and thats it. how you use it should determine the value and eventual collectivity of a product.

 

[justabrake]

Actually I showed you enough respect to read through your past posts before replying. You are the guy who only a few months back said he never heard of Martin cues, you wrecked your own ferrule with a tip tool, had no idea there is more the one Bear cue, asked dopey questions about adding inlays and turning down butts, never heard of ordering cues with different size butts, and it goes on.

There are knowledgeable people here, you can't come on here trying to fake knowledge you don't have and think you are going to fool anybody, it becomes obvious when someone doesn't know what they are talking about. Your current response is what I would expect from someone like you, the world can be a confusing place for some people and those who can't cope find violence their only outlet. I am sorry for you, you are like 50 years old maybe it's time to grow up.

So I used the tool in the dark and and didn't notice it was scratching up the ferrule so what asshole misstake! dah , no I didn't no there were a couple of bear cue companies out there , one is in europe didn't no that , whats so dopy about adding inlays in a cue after the finnished product have anyone thought of putting some inlays in there cue I have a plain Scruggs cue plain and simple but maybe I'd like to get something fancy in it and add an inlay in it so whats wrong with asking maybe a cue maker will respond and and give me a good price $$ to do thework whats wrong with that! but I apreciate you looking thru my previous threads before posting , I have no problem with that I hope I answered all your questions if not keep them coming