Motivation to practice and practice efficiently, how do i do that to raise my game?

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I've been playing 3C for almost 3 years and i found that it's much more interesting than pool. I want to get better with it but dont really know how!:confused:

I learn by watching matches play on Youtube by the best players such as Blomdahl, Sayginer and Coudron. I've also seen Pedro and many other top US players played here in Southern CA. Basically i try to learn from ANYONE who has knowledge about the game. I've also read a book online and learned a few systems to use for bank shots. As of a result i've raise my game to the Strong B level. :thumbup:

Besides playing hard every matches, I believe that practice might be the most important part for learning and correcting mistakes.

This is what i see in the game:
First part, Anticipation with Vision being the most important factor since you have to imagine the path of the CB before hitting it. Other things to consider are chance of a kiss, amount of english, how much ball to hit, etc.
Second part, Execution with Stroking being the most crucial element to create the desired result. Of course, other factors involve are aiming, amount of spin, body mechanic, speed, power, etc.

I've come to realize that 3C has more veriety of stroking technique than pool does, It's very difficult. Does a 3C stroke use much less risk action than a pool stroke?

And here is what i've been playing: I used to put my focus just on the first or second rails so often and tried to deliver the CB there. Occasionally i do that for the third rail, but not often. I felt that i was hard for me to let go of my stroke and tired of walking around too much and trying to figure out the point on the rail that i want the CB to make contact with. I felt that i was not in the Zone and out of stroke when i play, you know what i mean right?:confused:

A few weeks ago, i posted something here and learned from the feed back and came up with this idea to play Most of the shots with:
1. Imagine the CB running line as complete as possible and focus on the point of the Last rail just before the CB make contact with the second object ball.
2. Think of how much ball to hit to make the carom, eg. 1/8/, 2/8,3/8, etc.
3. Clock the shot, how many tips of english i need.
4. Lastly, find the proper use of stroke needed to make the carom.

I am now more SPECIFIC when i play. I play the Zone and not the first or second rail. A few shot, i still play the first/second rail.

Whenever i see good players play. I always wonder what is he thinking, where on the table he's looking, and what is his approach to the shot. I've never got a satisfied answer.

So here are my questions,

1. With the approach that i have for the shot, is it correct? is it how i need to play to get to a high level of playing? I really don't wnat to practice on something later just to find out that i did it the wrong way.

2. For practice, I shoot the balls around randomly most of the time. Are there routine practices that i should follow, groups of shot to focus on, system plays, or certain running lines to memorize?

3. What are the things i need to do to raise my game to the next level? I think something i pulling me back and i dont know what, why:confused:.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge of the game.:)

By the way, i'm horrible at adjusting to different tables.
 
I've been playing 3C for almost 3 years and i found that it's much more interesting than pool. I want to get better with it but dont really know how!:confused:

I learn by watching matches play on Youtube by the best players such as Blomdahl, Sayginer and Coudron. I've also seen Pedro and many other top US players played here in Southern CA. Basically i try to learn from ANYONE who has knowledge about the game. I've also read a book online and learned a few systems to use for bank shots. As of a result i've raise my game to the Strong B level. :thumbup:

Besides playing hard every matches, I believe that practice might be the most important part for learning and correcting mistakes.

This is what i see in the game:
First part, Anticipation with Vision being the most important factor since you have to imagine the path of the CB before hitting it. Other things to consider are chance of a kiss, amount of english, how much ball to hit, etc.
Second part, Execution with Stroking being the most crucial element to create the desired result. Of course, other factors involve are aiming, amount of spin, body mechanic, speed, power, etc.

I've come to realize that 3C has more veriety of stroking technique than pool does, It's very difficult. Does a 3C stroke use much less risk action than a pool stroke?

And here is what i've been playing: I used to put my focus just on the first or second rails so often and tried to deliver the CB there. Occasionally i do that for the third rail, but not often. I felt that i was hard for me to let go of my stroke and tired of walking around too much and trying to figure out the point on the rail that i want the CB to make contact with. I felt that i was not in the Zone and out of stroke when i play, you know what i mean right?:confused:

A few weeks ago, i posted something here and learned from the feed back and came up with this idea to play Most of the shots with:
1. Imagine the CB running line as complete as possible and focus on the point of the Last rail just before the CB make contact with the second object ball.
2. Think of how much ball to hit to make the carom, eg. 1/8/, 2/8,3/8, etc.
3. Clock the shot, how many tips of english i need.
4. Lastly, find the proper use of stroke needed to make the carom.

I am now more SPECIFIC when i play. I play the Zone and not the first or second rail. A few shot, i still play the first/second rail.

Whenever i see good players play. I always wonder what is he thinking, where on the table he's looking, and what is his approach to the shot. I've never got a satisfied answer.

So here are my questions,

1. With the approach that i have for the shot, is it correct? is it how i need to play to get to a high level of playing? I really don't wnat to practice on something later just to find out that i did it the wrong way.

2. For practice, I shoot the balls around randomly most of the time. Are there routine practices that i should follow, groups of shot to focus on, system plays, or certain running lines to memorize?

3. What are the things i need to do to raise my game to the next level? I think something i pulling me back and i dont know what, why:confused:.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge of the game.:)

By the way, i'm horrible at adjusting to different tables.

Umm.... I recommend to start small and then work your way up.

Answer to your question:
1) You think too much. That's good... only when you practice on your fundamentals by yourself (ya know: Stance, bridge, aim, english adjustment, speed adjustment, ect). When you face up against a rival (which, psychologically, you shouldn't be thinking like that but more like, "I am on the table by myself... just like practice"), that's when your basics should be on autopilot.

2) (and I keep stressing this out... while others bash me for this - which is perfectly fine... as mentioned above) START ON THE SMALL GAMES and evolve from there. There are reasons why these games are there:
-Freegame - to control BOTH object balls while consistanty running nurse caroms and trying to stay out of the corner balks
-Balkline (both 47cm & 72cm) - To create more difficulty to the prior game and to limit the amount of caroms under one "balk zone" (anchors included in this).
-Cushion Caroms (or 1-cushion... as they say) - to start the evolution of 3 cushion billiards... since balkline games were not enough; basically, to give limit to hitting the cue ball -at least- one cushion and hitting the two balls in one stroke (sequence varies).
-Three-Cushion Billiards - the evolution of both balkline games and cushion caroms; this was a game that judged the difficulty on how the balkline greats of the early half of the 1900s such as Hoppe, Cochrain, Katsura, Schaffer (I believe), ect.

3) Self-belief and application.......
This is not one of those games that you will get immediately. You have to be practicing on the same angle for at least a couple of years in order to get it down. There is no bulls***ing in this game... luck is just a whore going around the corner lookin for fake love. This game involves some substancial skills. Play the small games to get your speed control down (and where the first object ball is going). Bored of that game, go to balkline-- that is, if you can write on your cloth with a white felt pencil. If not, get into cushion caroms. Then set the tone for three-cushion by reading Robert Byrne's Books.

I am throwing my two cents... to others out there that would love to offer me some constructive criticism, I will happily take it. Bashers out there... don't waste your time on me; I am just trying to help.
 
I agree with SlickRick about the small games. You may think that playing straight rail (the free game) is boring or too easy or not grand enough. But it is none of those things. It is very difficult, and very satisfying when you have mastered a position. And more importantly, by trying to control the balls in a small area you will learn an enormous amount about how small variations in spin (high, low, left, right), speed and first object ball hit, make for large changes in outcome. And you will gain feel for controlling the first object ball. I cannot emphasize enough how important control of the first object ball is in all the carom games, and certainly in 3-cushion.
 
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