Does anyone know a cue maker named Williams that worked with Paul?
If yes, any comments?
If yes, any comments?
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Yes, been a while, maybe 8 years, Believe it was John Williams, nickname was Weasel. I believe he apprenticed along with Jim White under Paul, I think he left around the time Jim was outgrowing his apprenticeship and ready to make his own run. I state none of this as fact, just what I remember hearing around the halls here. Never really new him myself, but was friends with his younger brother, who played with a sneaky that had no finnish on it he said Weasel made for him, hit well from what I remember. Jim posts here sometimes maybe he can give you a better idea.
John's still there in the shop. Paul was at our tourney this past weekend. I have know Paul and John for about 12 years 2 real nice guys. They make pretty good cues too
Never talk to Jim White much but weasel and I use to play some cheap 9-ball on the table in Paul's shop.
Never talk to Jim White much but weasel and I use to play some cheap 9-ball on the table in Paul's shop.
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thanks guys
I played with one of his cues last night, really fancy, looked a lot like a mottey.
Gorgeous and played great.
The owner is putting away his barry to play with the Williams.
I played with one of his cues last night, really fancy, looked a lot like a mottey.
Gorgeous and played great.
The owner is putting away his barry to play with the Williams.
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Strokerz said:
Thanks for the correction. I've been out of the scene for a while now, just posted what I recalled from way back. Sorry for the bad info.
jmwcues
Mottey Custom Cues
John is not in the Mottey shop anymore and hasn't been for a couple of years. He is making cues on his own. I have not personally seen any cues that John has made since he left but I know he is capable of doing quality work. He sometimes stops in our poolroom (Breakers') but I haven't seen him since the tournament.
Jim
Jim
My Apologies, Thanks for the correction Jim, I was unaware of this. Last time I spoke to John he said he was still in the shop. Musta been a while ago. Great tourney you guys put on that weekend. I hope you do more like that in the future. Again thanks for the correction and my apologies.
Brian
Brian
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JohnWCCC
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Hi eveyone,
I would like to introduce myself. My name is John J. Williams. I own Williams Custom Cues and Consulting. I started my cue experience with Paul F. Mottey in December of '92. I started WCCC in '02, consulting while I gathered supplies and machinery. I still do consulting. Production of cues started in January of '07. So, in toll I have around 15 years of experience.
There are a few people I would really like to thank in getting this off the ground. Number one my parents. Two would have to be Paul, without his teaching I would not be where I am. I consider him one of my truest and trusted friends. Third is my not so silent partner Ben Hardy. He is my best friend and they don't make them any better. I would also like to thank three others who inspired me to get out on my own. Barry Szamboti, Tim Scruggs and Jack Justis our talks and your words meant alot, thanks again. I would also like to thank anyone who has already expressed in interested in my cues.
Also, the cue mentioned in this thread was made for a man named Fred McCann in Dillsburg, PA. The cue was to be similar to a Gus he had years before. Though, I got a lot of freedom on the piece. The cue was a 4 point, birds-eye forearm/ebony points. It has out/in Black, Red, Black, White mitered veneers. It has ivory bushka rings with sterling rings throughout. The points have scrimmed ivory peacocks surrounded by four ivory dots. The bottom has 2 sets of 4 diamonds in a diamond formation. It also has 2 ivory rectangles in mitered veneer frames. One rectangle has McCann inlaid in a nice script. The other 2007. There are ivory dots between inlay sets. The butt cap is delrin. The wrap cortland. I will try and get some pictures up.
Well, I hope this clears alot up. If you have an interest in my cues. I can be reached at johnwccc@comcast.net.
Also, I own 8OUT(trademark). We are going to be putting out some clothing so keep an eye out.
I would like to introduce myself. My name is John J. Williams. I own Williams Custom Cues and Consulting. I started my cue experience with Paul F. Mottey in December of '92. I started WCCC in '02, consulting while I gathered supplies and machinery. I still do consulting. Production of cues started in January of '07. So, in toll I have around 15 years of experience.
There are a few people I would really like to thank in getting this off the ground. Number one my parents. Two would have to be Paul, without his teaching I would not be where I am. I consider him one of my truest and trusted friends. Third is my not so silent partner Ben Hardy. He is my best friend and they don't make them any better. I would also like to thank three others who inspired me to get out on my own. Barry Szamboti, Tim Scruggs and Jack Justis our talks and your words meant alot, thanks again. I would also like to thank anyone who has already expressed in interested in my cues.
Also, the cue mentioned in this thread was made for a man named Fred McCann in Dillsburg, PA. The cue was to be similar to a Gus he had years before. Though, I got a lot of freedom on the piece. The cue was a 4 point, birds-eye forearm/ebony points. It has out/in Black, Red, Black, White mitered veneers. It has ivory bushka rings with sterling rings throughout. The points have scrimmed ivory peacocks surrounded by four ivory dots. The bottom has 2 sets of 4 diamonds in a diamond formation. It also has 2 ivory rectangles in mitered veneer frames. One rectangle has McCann inlaid in a nice script. The other 2007. There are ivory dots between inlay sets. The butt cap is delrin. The wrap cortland. I will try and get some pictures up.
Well, I hope this clears alot up. If you have an interest in my cues. I can be reached at johnwccc@comcast.net.
Also, I own 8OUT(trademark). We are going to be putting out some clothing so keep an eye out.
for Fred
Congrats on kicking it off this year, I'm sure you'll have a lot of fans here
soon. Keep up the good work!
Maybe you could give us some insight on the direction you'll be
taking your craft until we can see some of it.
While your description is excellent, it says nothing for the execution
or playability, which are also top notch.
This cue inspired me to seek out my first custom cue.
Thank you John
-cOOp
JohnWCCC said:
Congrats on kicking it off this year, I'm sure you'll have a lot of fans here
soon. Keep up the good work!
Maybe you could give us some insight on the direction you'll be
taking your craft until we can see some of it.
While your description is excellent, it says nothing for the execution
or playability, which are also top notch.
This cue inspired me to seek out my first custom cue.
Thank you John
-cOOp
JohnWCCC
Registered
I don't like to talk about my work. I let it speak for itself. All cues play different in different players hands. When it comes to playability, I really get involved with the player in the early stages of things. I ask alot of questions and with the information I try build a cue that will suit their needs. They try it and we make minor adjustments to tailor the cue.
As for designing the cues. I don't like to do knock-offs. I like to do personal theme style cues. Cues that tell a story about the player using them. What's important to them. We talk about things, come up with a general idea and I research it. Then I tell and show them what I have come up with and they say yes or no.
That's how I do it. I feel I take alot of steps to put the player into a cue that is eye-pleasing. But, more importantly I want them to have something they can win with.
As for designing the cues. I don't like to do knock-offs. I like to do personal theme style cues. Cues that tell a story about the player using them. What's important to them. We talk about things, come up with a general idea and I research it. Then I tell and show them what I have come up with and they say yes or no.
That's how I do it. I feel I take alot of steps to put the player into a cue that is eye-pleasing. But, more importantly I want them to have something they can win with.
JohnWCCC
Registered
Oh yeah, the other thing I would like to clarify is my nickname (Weasel). I got that nickname while attending the University of Pittsburgh. I used to be real thin and my hair fell into my eyes when I shot. Well, anyway I was playing on the head table in the student union when my friend Max walked into the room. He looked at me and said that I looked like the Weasel from the Foghorn Leghorn cartoons.
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JohnWCCC said:
Hello John,
one hint: I believe you had the camera set to a manual white-balance, probably the "lightbulb"-symbol, and used the cameras flash. When shooting flash, you should generally use the automatic white-balance or the "daylight"-setting, as flash has the same colour as daylight.
There are other options, but these would require much more practice.
Regards,
Detlev
dave sutton
Banned
sry guy had to do it.
the weisel
the weisel
