my take on playing on various tables.

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lorider

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my wed night league team moved from a bar with valleys to a pool hall with all diamonds. i play league 4 nights a week and with this move all my matches will be held in poolhalls except for tue nights. it got me to thinking about all the posts i have read on here with people complaining about bars and valley tables.

being a bar banger most of my life i did not have a problem playing league in bars.or pool halls....actually i think playing in different environments and on different tables every week will make you a better all around player. that is if you are willing to adjust from one to the other.

i have read on here many times where people bash apa for being a bar league and one certain pool hall owner on here blames leagues in general and apa in particular for the decline of pool halls all across the country. i find it more than coincidental that the only pool hall here that did not cater to apa closed . all the rest seem to be doing just fine

last wed night after league the apa lo and the room owner were talking and as i picked up my case and bid adieu i was called over to them.

the lo tells me the room owner wants to add an apa league to thur nights and would i be interested in putting a team together for him....travel league with his place as my home base.

as i was hum hawing around my g/f spoke up and said ...do it ....help him out. she works there part time....she is a secretary at her day job. so i agreed to put a team together.

on the way home i asked my g/f ....why did you speak up and say do it......you been complaining about how much i play as it is. she said he is a nice guy and wants the extra biz. so here i am playing 5 nights a week with 4 of them at pool halls. guess i am luckier than all you guys complaining about being stuck playing strictly in bars for league.

guess i am gonna have to start going out on sat nights playing in bars to get my fix playing on crappy tables with drunks and loud ass music. :grin:
 
I am not real sure how this post had anything to do with playing on various tables.

Reading this was like licking to the middle of a tootsie pop and then finding out there is no middle tootsie!!!
 
Ditto

Skippy27 said:
I am not real sure how this post had anything to do with playing on various tables.

Reading this was like licking to the middle of a tootsie pop and then finding out there is no middle tootsie!!!
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Yeh, me too. I was looking to see what differences about Diamond, Brunswick, etc. and this is what we got.
 
please forgive me for getting sidetracked in my op.. my thoughts were not clear due to taking some medication for an old injury that flares up now and then.

i touched upon thesubject briefly in my 2nd paragraph where i stated i believe playing on all types of tables in all types of environments will make you a better overall player....if you keep a positive attitude and are willing to adjust.

i play on 4 apa teams. we play on everything from 9' gold crowns.....well taken care of valleys.....neglected valleys and now diamond tables. environments range from quiet pool halls to bars with open mike night featuring the most gawd awful singers you have ever heard with drunks coming up wanting to challenge the table while you are playing a league match.

none of the variables phases me too much. yea i miss shots or get out of position on one type of table that i know i would not have missed on another. the same with terrible loud ass music vs a deathly quiet pool hall.

all too often i face some one who is constantly complaining about playing on the gold crowns when they are used to valleys. after missing a few shots that they know they would have made on their home valleys they start having a mental break down and their game reflects their attitude.

take tonight for example where we started our 8 ball tri cups at the venue with all diamonds. i faced another 5 who i have played several times ....allways on valleys and its allways been close. tonight i won 4-0 on the diamond table.

now i don't know how often he plays on them but i have only averaged 4-5 times a year in the 5 years i have been playing apa. when the match started i got out of position several times that i know would have been better position on valleys....mainly rolling too far ...especially coming off rails. the same with banks....banked wide a couple of times. not once did i get upset....just made a mental note of what i did wrong as i walked away from the table.as the match went on i kept adjusting my stroke and aiming and started playing better.

my opponent was the opposite. he kept muttering when he missed and more than once i heard him complaining to his team mates how the table played.

he reminded me of a lot of posters on here that aere allways complaing bout the environment...table conditions and size of table.

my willingness to keep a positive attitude and adjust on the fly and learn from my mistakes allowed me to shut him out whereas it might have been a close game at his home venue. on crappy valleys.

to sum it up...the biggest thing is to take a lot off your stroke on a diamond vs a valley. especially coming off the rail or draw shots. as for banking....hit the object more fuller on a diamond than a valley...at 1st i was banking a few inches wide which told me i was overcutting the ball. aim more for center pocket...you can't cheat the pocket for position as much as you can on a valley.
 
Skippy27 said:
I am not real sure how this post had anything to do with playing on various tables.

Reading this was like licking to the middle of a tootsie pop and then finding out there is no middle tootsie!!!
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Am puzzled by the same????

It could be the pool tables he is referring to is women at the different bars and his G/F wants him to play in a house league so she can keep an eye on him while she is there working.

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Our traveling league plays on 4 different 7' valley table and each of them plays very differently. Two have Mercury cloth and the others have felt with one being new felt and the other quite old and dinged. Loud music and friendly drunks in all but in my small town, if you want to shoot, that pretty much where you go. I hear players blaming the tables when they are having a bad night but, you are right on, lorider - you have to adjust. You gotta play the table! I've got an 8' Brunswick with Simonis 860 and also a 7' valley with Mercury in my basement. Try going back and forth on those two! Two totally different strokes needed on every shot between both tables.
 
Only thing I can say about the op is, "if he knew what didn't know he might not what he knows about what he knows"!
 
LIAKOS27 said:
Only thing I can say about the op is, "if he knew what didn't know he might not what he knows about what he knows"!
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i think you need to read what you wrote...you left out a few words but i was able to comprehend any way. i really don't think you know what i know because if you did know what i know then you would know that i know what i know.

as for a couple of other posters ...i hope they never aspire to be full time comedians because they would spend more time in the unempolyment line than on stage .
 
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