NaySayers and YeaSayers
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Hahahaha. The naysayers will probably accuse me of contributing to the mistreatment of puppies now. Louie will probably say that Michael Vick and I are good buddies.
Sad.
Lou Figueroa
on several levels
Damn. All the little blue haired ladies are giving me the stink eye now
Lou Figueroa
thanks, Mike
Yep.
I agree the "aimpoint line" is window dressing, but I like the center-to-edge line as a fixed reference. I like center-to-contact point even better.
pj
chgo
Reversal of attitudes by the Naysayers.
If anyone is noticing, after years of spiteful demogoguery, the Naysayers are reversing their tune. Now they are preaching to each other about how nice CTE/Pro One is, how it helps this one and that one and how they like this and especially like that.
That's sweet girls.
CTE/Pro One has overcome even the naysayers.
Lawdie, lawdie, who'd ever thought they'd see this day?
Glad to see you preaching the Gospel girls. I'm all done.
If anyone is noticing, after years of spiteful demogoguery, the Naysayers are reversing their tune. Now they are preaching to each other about how nice CTE/Pro One is, how it helps this one and that one and how they like this and especially like that.
That's sweet girls.
CTE/Pro One has overcome even the naysayers.
Lawdie, lawdie, who'd ever thought they'd see this day?
Glad to see you preaching the Gospel girls. I'm all done.
If anyone is noticing, after years of spiteful demogoguery, the Naysayers are reversing their tune. Now they are preaching to each other about how nice CTE/Pro One is, how it helps this one and that one and how they like this and especially like that.
That's sweet girls.
CTE/Pro One has overcome even the naysayers.
Lawdie, lawdie, who'd ever thought they'd see this day?
Glad to see you preaching the Gospel girls. I'm all done.
You should be done. You become more pathetic with every post.
What is happening is that some folks are having some success stripping away the CTE/Pro 1 window dressing (as Pat puts it) and getting at the core of why some people feel the systems work. This has been done without, and in spite of, your insipid posts.
Lou Figueroa
Banks
Banned
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=81358
I see this whole topic of aiming has been going on for quite some time.
If anyone suggests anything other than pocketing the ball, I'm just gonna smile and nod. :idea:
I see this whole topic of aiming has been going on for quite some time.
If anyone suggests anything other than pocketing the ball, I'm just gonna smile and nod. :idea:
I suppose Joey needs the last word here, it is his thread after all, but I emphasize the word needs because that's Joey's mindset. He thinks that if he were to have the last say, then he considers himself victorious, and his thread is therefore successful. Nothing, however, could be further from the truth.
The reality is this thread has caused nothing but strife between the two factions, and it probably gave me my freakin' heart attack, (okay, indulge me on that one), but suffice it to say that no real good has come out of any of this, save for his own self-agrandizement. Friends have besmirched friends, and those who were not may never have the opportunity to become friends. Very sad.
Even though my hands are unclean, as well, I personally have had enough and would prefer to move on to something else. Shaft cleaning, tip choices, something a little more mundane for awhile.
The reality is this thread has caused nothing but strife between the two factions, and it probably gave me my freakin' heart attack, (okay, indulge me on that one), but suffice it to say that no real good has come out of any of this, save for his own self-agrandizement. Friends have besmirched friends, and those who were not may never have the opportunity to become friends. Very sad.
Even though my hands are unclean, as well, I personally have had enough and would prefer to move on to something else. Shaft cleaning, tip choices, something a little more mundane for awhile.
You're not kidding. The only thing worse than reading through this thread is listening to JoeyA's match commentary.... It's I, I, I, and Me, Me, Me....:barf:
Again this shows your cte knowledge is at pretty much nothing. You do not even understand the purpose of the aim line. You can also call this line "THE PJ FEEL LINE < this is where all your feel you speak of has gone too" Dr Dave has even spoke about it and you still weren't smart enough to piece it together with the 1/8 adjustments. Try shooting a 20 degree shot without using the aim line but only the ctel, i could go on further but there is no point. This entire cte topic is beyond your understanding and its clear you have no better understanding of it now than you did 10 years ago.
You have this lou guy tell people the edges and lines are immaterial lol but then goes on to pretty much say all the system does is position you properly behind the ball,show you better visuals blah blah blah in a more consistent manner. wtf? Thats the purpose of the lines and the system!!! and goes on to say that is why people see an improved performance wtf? again thats the purpose of this aiming system!! and of course the other genius Pj agrees with the Hulk lol
You guys dont know or understand the system and its purpose, stop posting bs and influencing others and possibly affecting stans business and personal life in a negative way because of your ignorance.
This is a very very good aiming system and nothing more, get over it and drop the witch hunt!
There are only 5 lines of aim and not 6 and a grand total of 9, if you dont count the straight in twice and not 11.
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As far as I can tell, there's only one line of aim: from the bridge point through the cue ball center. The other lines would be more appropriately called "alignment" lines, because their purpose is to get you aligned correctly for finding the bridge point.
Pivoting is needed only because the cue tip is deliberately pointed away from the center of the cue ball, and as far as I can tell that's done to help you find the bridge point, also. That certainly doesn't fit what I think of as "aiming". I imagine that people who use CTE/ProOne a lot - e.g., the Shuffetts, Stevie Moore - wouldn't have much trouble finding the bridge point with the cue unscrewed and in its case.
By the way, I've been playing with Mike Page's robot. Fun toy. I'm pretty sure it can be programmed to use CTE/ProOne without using any information not available to the player or not readily used by the player.
Pivoting is needed only because the cue tip is deliberately pointed away from the center of the cue ball, and as far as I can tell that's done to help you find the bridge point, also. That certainly doesn't fit what I think of as "aiming". I imagine that people who use CTE/ProOne a lot - e.g., the Shuffetts, Stevie Moore - wouldn't have much trouble finding the bridge point with the cue unscrewed and in its case.
By the way, I've been playing with Mike Page's robot. Fun toy
. I'm pretty sure it can be programmed to use CTE/ProOne without using any information not available to the player or not readily used by the player.As far as I can tell, there's only one line of aim: from the bridge point through the cue ball center. The other lines would be more appropriately called "alignment" lines, because their purpose is to get you aligned correctly for finding the bridge point.
Pivoting is needed only because the cue tip is deliberately pointed away from the center of the cue ball, and as far as I can tell that's done to help you find the bridge point, also. That certainly doesn't fit what I think of as "aiming". I imagine that people who use CTE/ProOne a lot - e.g., the Shuffetts, Stevie Moore - wouldn't have much trouble finding the bridge point with the cue unscrewed and in its case.
By the way, I've been playing with Mike Page's robot. Fun toy
This is wrong and alot of people forget about the forgotten point, the back hand, the grip hand.
This point also has to be in the right line.
Any system that does not take into account that the cue is a line is not a complete system. The two point the matter on the cue is the bridge and the grip hand and these points must be included in the aiming process.
What I said was "As far as I can tell, there's only one line of aim: from the bridge point through the cue ball center."
If the cue tip is pointed at the center of the cue ball and the shaft is running across a bridge point situated on the CB to ghost ball line, it's really, really difficult for the butt of the cue to be out of line, isn't it?
mlalum
Banned
If anyone is noticing, after years of spiteful demogoguery, the Naysayers are reversing their tune. Now they are preaching to each other about how nice CTE/Pro One is, how it helps this one and that one and how they like this and especially like that.
That's sweet girls.
CTE/Pro One has overcome even the naysayers.
Lawdie, lawdie, who'd ever thought they'd see this day?
Glad to see you preaching the Gospel girls. I'm all done.
Joey's reading comprehension is in serious doubt. I think he's just trying to live up to his hero jb cases.