Yes they are, they're just called G2 Hards now. Plays and feels exactly like the original Moori medium. Hard to believe? Try it.
Need a new tip, which is best (of the big 3)
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Yes they are, they're just called G2 Hards now. Plays and feels exactly like the original Moori medium. Hard to believe? Try it.
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thats the 3rd glowing recommendation of G2
is it "G2" or "G-squared"?
i was ready to go with Kumui Black but i have heard from several people that they glaze over requiring scraping etc
i dont want a high maintenance tip, already have a high maintenance car, motorcycle and girlfriend
Already tested the G2 Soft, Medium and Hard... None of their grades match up to the old Moori Medium on hardness and Coefficient of Restitution.. Which are related to each other but not 1:1... Great tips but not the 2nd coming. So far none of the existing layered tips are ringers for the old Mooris... I am not even sure if there was one that we would even really know it for sure.. The Originals were 20 years ago and at this point their hit has become the stuff of legend....
Even with that Said... If you want a layered tip G2 is what I would go with......
First off, I'm just an average player and not super sensitive to the difference between tips. Some I can tell a difference and some I can't. The only two differences I have really been able to measure are my ease of getting good action on the ball and how long they last. The difference in action due to the tip is very subtle and hard to judge because my stroke is inconsistent, sometimes I think I'm getting it right or very close to right and other times not. My cue ball action is WAY more dependent on my stroke than the tip.
Anyway, I tried Triangle and Everest on my former cue and they were both ok but I wasn't thrilled.
My new cue (Predator P3 I got about 3 or 4 years ago) came with a Moori Medium. I liked it but it only lasted 2 or 3 years with minimal shaping/scuffing before it got thin enough that I started worrying about damaging the ferrule on hard hits. Some may say that's a long time but for me it was the only tip I ever felt I had to replace because it was getting too small.
After reading through some similar threads here on AZ, I switched to a Ki-Tech (soft) a few months ago. I think it's better than the Moori Medium in the spin department and from what I've read and experienced so far I think it will last much longer.
The tip I had between the Moori medium and the Ki-Tech was one I never knew the name of that they included in the price of the retip at the 2013 US Open. They SWORE it played JUST like the Moori medium and I would love it. It had a cool purple stripe around it so I said "What the heck I'll try it." Mistake. I COULD tell the difference with that tip and shouldn't have waited a year to switch it over to the Ki-Tech. Not a big difference but I felt it didn't impart spin to the cue as well as any of the other tips I had used.
Anyway, I tried Triangle and Everest on my former cue and they were both ok but I wasn't thrilled.
My new cue (Predator P3 I got about 3 or 4 years ago) came with a Moori Medium. I liked it but it only lasted 2 or 3 years with minimal shaping/scuffing before it got thin enough that I started worrying about damaging the ferrule on hard hits. Some may say that's a long time but for me it was the only tip I ever felt I had to replace because it was getting too small.
After reading through some similar threads here on AZ, I switched to a Ki-Tech (soft) a few months ago. I think it's better than the Moori Medium in the spin department and from what I've read and experienced so far I think it will last much longer.
The tip I had between the Moori medium and the Ki-Tech was one I never knew the name of that they included in the price of the retip at the 2013 US Open. They SWORE it played JUST like the Moori medium and I would love it. It had a cool purple stripe around it so I said "What the heck I'll try it." Mistake. I COULD tell the difference with that tip and shouldn't have waited a year to switch it over to the Ki-Tech. Not a big difference but I felt it didn't impart spin to the cue as well as any of the other tips I had used.
Hey quick question, I play with a medium tip on my z2. Would or should I use the same tip for 3142 shaft. Just curious if you had any experience with either shaft and playing around tip configuration?
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Well Chris I don't think anyone would argue you're knowledge regarding readings on the meters you use as we all know what you do for a living. So if you say that hardness and coefficient of restitution are different then you're sure of it so I know you're right.. I don't know what all that means but I know what I feel when I hit a ball & I can see the result. I played the holy grails all through the 90's & stashed enough away that I didn't run out too long ago and in hit, feel, performance the G2 Hard is close enough to the old Moori mediums in how they play than anything else out there, almost imperceptible. I've got nothing but love for you though & I'll say if I was going to buy a non layered tip then the KiTech Medium it would be. When I ran out of my Old Moori's I tried a lot of new tips looking for a new go to & yours were it in the end until I found the G2's. You make a great product
Yes, actually G2 stands for Grip Squared, accurate description it is. Not high maintenance at all, at least not the Hards. Amazing tips, one of their big pluses is no glazing.
Nothing wrong at all with going by the seat of your pants since there are so many tips out there and there is no benchmarking.... I can actually tell you that our medium is only a few points off as well and a few points can be a mountain...
We keep working tho and are learning more with each new grade...
Still working on a super/soft that will stay that way and hope to have that answer by expo but in working on it we ended up with our medium soft which was a pleasant surprise....
The day I figure it out is the day I will send you a sample in the mail LOL I thought the cpl of points was going to be close enough but there was just enough difference between ours and the original I have installed that I knew we weren't there yet.... I even posted awhile back when we started testing it and the threead died as the test died....
Hahah If I answer that question I'll set off the 3rd world war... Or at least one bigger than the aiming system war that left millions dead and many more crippled or homeless here on AZ....
Will say this and leave it alone... If you goto with the medium on the 314 2 and you can't seem to throw the balls as well, drop down to a medium/soft or soft... Or if your cueball travel is more than you have programmed into your head, don't reprogram drop down in hardness....
Awesome much appreciated...also I didn't want to be the start of the apocalypse either :thumbup:
Not only does the Colonel always get the chicken, he always
gets it when it comes to tips and threads started about tips...
....G2 G2 G2 G2 G2
This is what I would go with, the top 3you mentioned would be no better than 2,3, and 4 if G2 had
been on the list IMO.
I prefer the G2 medium and have yet to try the soft or hard G2
versions. I haven't had a reason to, because the mediums are
so good.
I would like to try one of Renfro's K-Tech tips one day, as well,
they've had exellent reviews from what I've read. By the awy,
Colonel, I still have 2 of the 1st generation Moori mediums and
they were a C note per tip...lol, but true. I sent one to Dennis
Searing last month, he's making a couple of shafts for a cue
that I acquired a couple months back. I've been saving those
tips for the right shaft. One will have one of my 1st gen Moori's
on it and the other shaft he's making will have a..............wait
for it..............G2 medium.
Hope this helps OP and sorry for any derailment of your thread.
Not only does the Colonel always get the chicken, he always
gets it when it comes to tips and threads started about tips...
....G2 G2 G2 G2 G2
you mentioned would be no better than 2,3, and 4 if G2 had
been on the list IMO.
I prefer the G2 medium and have yet to try the soft or hard G2
versions. I haven't had a reason to, because the mediums are
so good.
I would like to try one of Renfro's K-Tech tips one day, as well,
they've had exellent reviews from what I've read. By the awy,
Colonel, I still have 2 of the 1st generation Moori mediums and
they were a C note per tip...lol, but true. I sent one to Dennis
Searing last month, he's making a couple of shafts for a cue
that I acquired a couple months back. I've been saving those
tips for the right shaft. One will have one of my 1st gen Moori's
on it and the other shaft he's making will have a..............wait
for it..............G2 medium.
Hope this helps OP and sorry for any derailment of your thread.
You really need to put one of the Hards on one of your shafts & try it. Trust me on this. If you try one of Chris's Outsville tips try one of his mediums. I truly meant it when I said if I were to go to a non layered tip that would be it.
Nope...bought a box years ago...they'll still be some left long after I'm gone.
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I replace tips every day. G2 is an excellent tip. I use mediums. You will not be disappointed. They are very consistent. I have also had great luck with Emerald mediums and Morakami mediums. I hate Everest tips - I will cut one off every time I get a cue with one on it. G2 is very close to the old Moori.
I replace tips every day. G2 is an excellent tip. I use mediums. You will not be disappointed. They are very consistent. I have also had great luck with Emerald mediums and Morakami mediums. I hate Everest tips - I will cut one off every time I get a cue with one on it. G2 is very close to the old Moori.
G2s over Kamui and Moori by mile. I have a set of ki-techs that I think it is time to try. On the cheap the milk duds are excellent. I tried ultra skins twice. One time I hated it, second time thought it was even better than Kamui. I think Kamui tips are just the worst. Ild take a milk dud over them anyday
Is this do to being more expensive? I mean if a person buys a cue for more, and they put a lesser known tip on it wouldn't that hurt the concept of the higher price? Also do they get a kick back for doing so on name brand cues?