Need Help, Idea's...

Well for one, I keep hearing that there is going to be a recession this year in the U.S., that gas prices might reach $4.00 a gallon, and that there might be some inflation.

Basically this means that people will have less spending money for fun stuff and they will be doing things to cut their spending. Playing pool, eating out, going to movies, etc. are all things which can be cut from the family budget. Something to consider.

Besides that, run the numbers...

What are the current options with the present owner? It sounds as if he would not be able to sell the business and his only option would be to close the doors?

Then what? Would he sell off the inventory, tables, etc.? If he did this, how much money could he expect to receive? Note that he would receive this money once, then not receive any more money after that as everything would be gone.

How about his financial situation? Is he currently making money from the business? How much each month? Can he manage his personal finances OK without this income? Would half of that income each month from here on and his not having to deal with the business be a better option for him than selling everything and having no income after that?

Would he be willing for you to take over the business without any down payment and pay him half of what he is making now until a set amount is paid to him? And he would retain ownership of the inventory, tables, etc. until this was paid off? (He would lose nothing. If the business went belly-up, he could always sell off everything like he is intending to do now.)

Basically anything is negotiable. Just need to make a deal you can live with and he can live with. Maybe a little income each month would be better to him than selling everything now and not having any income?

So far as you are concerned, how much of your time would this require? How much money will you be making? If you are going to be spending 100 hours a week working and will be making half of what you could be making working at a regular job 40 hours a week, then this idea would be silly!

Also is the business paying rent? Would the landlord have a difficult time re-renting the building? Perhaps you could go to the landlord and say business is bad and you are going to close the doors unless he can reduce the rent. Anything is negotiable!
 
If he can produce records that will withstand the scrutiny of a good CPA and still show a profit, I would think you stand a chance of finding a silent partner to invest as part owner.
The question is ultimately does it produce a profit?
 
SPINDOKTOR said:
Ok, Im going to go over the books with him tonight, Im just glad I ask for advice, you guy's/Gal's are up to speed, and I appritiate you taking the time to advise me on this situation, thank all of you, and I'll let you know what I end up doing..

SPINDOKTOR

To reiterate my last post. Have a CPA look at them, he'll have a much better probably to spot it if they've been "cooked".
 
I am not discounting any of the prior posts. You are getting some good advice here. With that said, and having run several for profit and non-profit businesses over the years here are a few ideas that can be changed to fit you and your circumstances.

Sell shares in the business to raise the money to buy plus operating capital.

Sell memberships in a private club like a golf club that is open to the public on special days.

Either of these will show you if you have the clientel to make it.

Hold a ?Let?s keep the Hall? tournament with the proceeds used to make the purchase. Something like a charity event. First prize is a new cue or a steak dinner. The ?Get In? is $100.00 and includes xx hours of ?free? table time over the next year.

Have a raffle for the same reasons.

Have a silent auction at the tournament.

Another approach is to start some sort of social community service. Teach delinquents to play. Hold schools for kids on probation. Give them a place to work. All of this on special days. The Juvenile Court is usually looking for new and innovative programs that will keep their kids off the street and under the influence of ?good? people. Once accepted by the Court, many other organizations will kick in financial and other support to keep the program running.

To get started talk with the local chief probation officer and or bailiff.

Talk with the University (near you) student government office. You might be surprised what college kids can do when a good project comes along.

The key to all of these approaches is community involvement, non-profit status and you running the show. These build business and gets support for the sport.
 
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