Need help with a Valley table.

Cuebuddy

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Valley table question
I’m about to recover a Valley bar box.

The old cloth was wrapped and glued to the underside of the slate instead of being trimmed along the bottom of the slate.

There are two support beams that run across from long rail to the other long rail. These rails have a 14” piece of cloth on top that the bottom of the slate rests on.

If I trim the new cloth at the bottom edge of the slate instead of wrapping the cloth under the slate will that be a problem?

With the lack of cloth on the edges of the slate cause the slate to crown slightly in the middle?
 
Cuebuddy said:
Valley table question
I’m about to recover a Valley bar box.

The old cloth was wrapped and glued to the underside of the slate instead of being trimmed along the bottom of the slate.

There are two support beams that run across from long rail to the other long rail. These rails have a 14” piece of cloth on top that the bottom of the slate rests on.

If I trim the new cloth at the bottom edge of the slate instead of wrapping the cloth under the slate will that be a problem?

With the lack of cloth on the edges of the slate cause the slate to crown slightly in the middle?
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Valley tables are designed to have the cloth wrapped under the edges of the slate.
Trimming the cloth flush with the bottom of the slate could lead to at least 3 issues:
  • Crowning of the slate (if you don't remove the cloth from the support rails)
  • Cushion nose height too high
  • Cloth not maintaining adhesion to the slate (especially in the pockets)
 
bradsh98 said:
Valley tables are designed to have the cloth wrapped under the edges of the slate. Trimming the cloth flush with the bottom of the slate could lead to at least 3 issues:
  • Crowning of the slate (if you don't remove the cloth from the support rails)
  • Cushion nose height too high
  • Cloth not maintaining adhesion to the slate (especially in the pockets)
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Thanks for your help. I have not started on the bed cloth yet so I can wrap it if need be. These are a few things that I was thinking would indeed be a problem and you have confirmed it.
 
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The Dynamo I put new cloth on had the cloth tucked under the slate and balls rolled away from the rails.

I cut the cloth flush with the slate. Put some glue on the area that the rails hide, and the side of the slate and it has held. Rolls better now, but could be table dependent. I'm not a mechanic, but the original recloth was done so poorly I figured I couldn't do worse!

It got new rubber and facings and plays damn good for an old barbox.
 
bignick31985 said:
The Dynamo I put new cloth on had the cloth tucked under the slate and balls rolled away from the rails.

I cut the cloth flush with the slate. Put some glue on the area that the rails hide, and the side of the slate and it has held. Rolls better now, but could be table dependent. I'm not a mechanic, but the original recloth was done so poorly I figured I couldn't do worse!

It got new rubber and facings and plays damn good for an old barbox.
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If there is no cloth on top of the center supports, the slate will sag in the center. Additionally, the cabinet design tends to sag toward the center anyway. In the long direction, almost all of these tables will roll to the center, to some degree.
 
bradsh98 said:
If there is no cloth on top of the center supports, the slate will sag in the center. Additionally, the cabinet design tends to sag toward the center anyway. In the long direction, almost all of these tables will roll to the center, to some degree.
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I forgot to mention that part. It did have some old cloth on the center supports. I just left that alone. So far so good. Time will tell I suppose. I know the 3030 is real fast.
 
I thought that's why they called them VALLEY tables! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
They do tend to sag, and create a valley in the center. I usually shim them up as far as I can, but you end up with the rails a little high near the side pockets. Most people would rather have it closer to level though.
 
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